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    Default Help with avoiding friend zoned by HB10

    Hi guys,
    I number closed this HB10 a week ago and a few days ago I had my first date with her which went very well. After the date she texted me and said she enjoyed it and she would be happy to meet me again!

    So far so good, however she sounds like very cautious with the entire process especially with the physical contacts. I did a (bullshit) palm reading for her and she was fine with it but then she quickly pulled back her hands. Also when we said goodbye I hugged her and kissed her on the chick but then she quickly pulled herself back again.

    Form what she said during our conversations she has dumped quite a lot of dudes before me. I don't want to be one of them and I don't want to land in her friend zone. I mean if I go too slowly I will run the risk of getting friend zoned and if I pressure her she may get scared/turned off. What would you suggest me to do to keep her interest level high and avoid getting ditched/friend zoned?

    Cheers

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    Default Re: Help with avoiding friend zoned by HB10

    Well, you can do some fun dates, and have fun and flirty convos with her. Fun dates could be like going for ice cream, ice skating (personal favorite of mine), mini golf, and slowly build with the physical stuff. She may just be cautious with a new guy at first til she's more comfortable

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    Default Re: Help with avoiding friend zoned by HB10

    If she is a HB10 she is going to be careful. Meet again and up the flirty convos and see where that takes you.

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    Default Re: Help with avoiding friend zoned by HB10

    Thanks mate,

    She came over for dinner last Tuesday night. I cooked some yummy Italian meatballs for her, and then we had wine and chocolate! I gave her a couple of books to read and then dropped her of at her house. During the night (which was barely 3 hours) I tried to touch her but she kind of resisted. She just let me stroke her hair a bit!

    The odd thing is that she has not communicated with me ever since at all! I texted her yesterday (30 hours ago) and she did not reply! I am surprised because every thing went very well and when we said goodbye she said she wanted to go for a walk with me later. I am really thinking some chicks are crazy!

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    Default Re: Help with avoiding friend zoned by HB10

    Those are definitely cross signals and yes some chicks are crazy. Since you met last Tuesday and everything went well you are coming up on two weekends without contact. After your first date she DID reply and said everything was great and wanted to do it again. Now she is silent. I would wait out the weekend before making another move or ask her how the books are going.

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    Default Re: Help with avoiding friend zoned by HB10

    move on to another woman don't slow yourself down.

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    Default Re: Help with avoiding friend zoned by HB10

    Hey aussiearef,

    Let me share a little experience I had a few months ago with a woman. Now she had a boyfriend and they've been together for almost 4 yrs. She was in her final year at University for her BSc at the time.

    I met her at her work place (a pharmacy) and we began talking; turned out she was pretty well known, so was her boyfriend, so she was skeptical to go out with me all the time. Anyways, similarly to you, we did some casual dates, went to the park, did some moon light settings and pretty much texted a lot...

    Now for a HB9 (black girl) she put up a lot of bitch shields and I was worried that I would have ended up in the 'LJBF Zone'. Imagine, I'm running good game, getting tons of IOI's and she's reluctant in kinoing me... I was really worried and confused. It took me about 9 weeks before we actually kissed, suddenly, after we kissed, she didn't want to talk to me for a whole week, giving me a silly excuse about someone telling her boyfriend she's talking to a new guy. Anyway, I was cool with it, wasn't worried, I told her to do what she had to do.

    Now here's the funny part, she called me one morning while I was on work, about 3am and we began talking, the conversation escalated and she became horny, she told me that she wanted me badly at that point. I mean if she wasn't for real, then she did an excellent job at faking it. However, I wasn't able to leave work and I didn't have a car at the time... Man!!! I became frustrated, I called around to get a ride, but I couldn't, I became so dam desperate, I thought about walking to her place (about 7 miles), then it hit me, "you win some and you lose some."

    I mean, I didn't let that bother me at all, I was gaming multiple women, so I wasn't worried at all... It so turned out that during that week we ended up in an argument, and I lost her... I mean... completely lost her... no fclose or anything...

    What I took home from that experience was that she wasn't really looking for a man, she was using me as an opportunity to release some stress from her current relationship. So I guess she just wanted to have sex with me to get back at her boyfriend or something, because she did admit to me that he had cheated on her and they were going through some problems.

    So, sometimes that's just it, its all a game out here, both genders play, so maybe what's happening in your case is that she already has another guy and she's just playing the game herself... possibility exists that guys (prior to you) have already tried similar routines on her before, so she probably knew your routines... just follow SolidT's advice "move on to another woman don't slow yourself down."

    Regards,

    PUAJacki

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    Default Re: Help with avoiding friend zoned by HB10

    Thanks PUAJacks

    It was a great advice. I am already doing other approaches, picking other women and farking them! Last night I went to IMAX cinema with this French HB10, but the night before I picked up a Hungarian chick, took her to an instant date, took her home and f-closed her!
    I am not stuck with this girl, but I like her and I want to make sure I don't ditch her for an invalid reason.

    I don't think she has a boyfriend, however, she told me that a few months ago she broke up with her ex-bf and then she moved to Australia to get away from him. She said the BF is still waiting for her. I am not sure if this is a reason as to why she is painfully slow.

    After I posted my original message she texted me and said she was homesick, and suggested to meet up. We went to IMAX cinema last night (because I already had two vouchers, which me and my ex bought a few months a go but we never used them!). I tried to hold her hand for a sec but she pulled back her hand. In the cinema she just kept watching the film. While at the cinema I saying to myself "great work man, you smoothly landed in her friend zone!". At the end of the movie, I tried to test her, so I kissed her forehead but she did not show any negative or positive reaction.

    She talks to me and says good things about me, but every time we say hello or goodbye she brings her chick for me to kiss!! By all means she avoids any physical contact. So far it's been 3 or 4 weeks and 5 so-called dates.

    How long should I wait until I dump her do you think? (given that I have not stopped gaming other women). Do you think at some point I better talk to her and tell her verbally that I never wanted to be her friend and so I don't like being too slow?

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Help with avoiding friend zoned by HB10

    Well aussiearef,

    I don't think you should dump her just like that, and I don't think you should waste your time with her either. I think you should stop making advances for now... Try to get her deeper into the comfort zone, she probably thinks if she gives it up to you, you'll leave... dumping her at this stage can have serious repercussions.

    According to Shade (2008), "if a woman is going out with you, she's going out with you because she wants a sexual partner, if a woman is going out with you, she is yours to lose because she expects it to go in a sexual direction eventually."

    This part of the model is the C1 - C3 [conversation, connection, comfort]. Remember what Mystery said, "the game is played in comfort."

    So, continue to game other women... Remember, Style took some time to lay that HB10 in 'The Game' didn't he? But eventually, he did. I can't tell you exactly what to do to magically fclose this girl, but you should continue to game her just as well. "Never give up."

    Regards,

    PUAJacki


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