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    Question Having trouble with my Game

    Hi Friends

    I have been doing a ton of research and been putting that research into action this past couple months. I know spitting "good game" takes time. But one thing always makes me wonder. What is actually considered good game? so many girls are different. like different things. is there a set "game" that works on most girls? i am having some trouble trying to have a convo with a girl without making it boring, without rambling about non sense and trying to get a spark going. what are the best topics to bring up in a convo and how do you throw some sexual tension in the mist of it?

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    Default Re: Having trouble with my Game

    The best advice I can give is advice I would have found useless before I started, but its absolutely correct. Talk about what YOU want to talk about! What do you want to know about this girl? Do you really care where she is from or her job? I personally like asking about pets cuz I love dogs, and I ask about travel cuz i have a ton of memorized funny travel stories to talk about. Not exactly DHV stories, but just generally entertaining to make her laugh

    As for sexual tension, just create banter. Literally make up a stupid role play off of anything she says. If she asks what you do, maybe say you're a super hero like its no big deal, and she can be your side kick, and casually mention how she'll probably be wearing something tight and revealing. You may not like that example but u get the point I hope. Saying u rob banks is another funny role play, cuz then u can go into hiding out... Alone... Maybe in a motel... You see where you can go with these right?

    As for what is good game: although your "batting average" isnt important, maybe keep an eye on it. Approach the same amount of girls a week and see if the amount of dates your getting goes up or not. It can also help if u have a friend who is good with girls go with you when u do approaches and listen to your convos to give feedback

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    Default Re: Having trouble with my Game

    Hey Danamayo,

    Seems like you've got a long way to go. Anyhow, becoming good at game takes time. one of the things you have to learn and remember is that you are the game - The game is You!

    I always encourage guys to practice, practice and practice, there's no better way I know of to get better at game.

    From the way you sound, it seems like you haven't read 'The Mystery Method'... I encourage you to look for, download and read it. It's an eye opener. That's where I initially began 'spitting good game'.

    Cheers,

    PUAJacki

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    Default Re: Having trouble with my Game

    Hi Danamayo, first of all there is not such a thing like an "standard" game that would work for every girl, being said that you have to "calibrate" the girl, what I mean by that is that you have to be able to read her if she has strong personality, if she has low self esteem, etc. Then you should put it in a light, for example if she is a yellow light that is an hb5 to an hb7 that means that you would use about 3 negs with here at the maximum, my personal scale is:
    -Red Light Hb1 to HB4 (NO NEGS AT ALL)
    -Yellow Light HB5 to HB7 (Max 3 or 4 negs)
    -Green Light HB8 to HB10 (As many negs as you need to use to break his bitch shield)
    And from that you should go with the normal pattern taught on the mystery method(I prefer to use indirect but I know direct method as well, this make those two methods complementary to each other)
    So after the opening you just go simple: DHV - Qualify her(cat string theory) - then you just need to build rapport and comfort (and in this phase it should a kiss at least) then you take it from there
    Thats how I play. By the way, if you ask for DHVs? Im not the kind of guy that tells alpha stories to girls and all that, I just make myself mysterious and I do magic so... that helps me out

    PUA Allan

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    Default Re: Having trouble with my Game

    I have been doing a ton of research and been putting that research into action this past couple months. I know spitting "good game" takes time. But one thing always makes me wonder. What is actually considered good game? so many girls are different. like different things. is there a set "game" that works on most girls? i am having some trouble trying to have a convo with a girl without making it boring, without rambling about non sense and trying to get a spark going. what are the best topics to bring up in a convo and how do you throw some sexual tension in the mist of it?
    first off, you're "set game" will be unique to you. everyone is different. you have to figure out what works for you and what doesn't.
    too often pua's will tell you there method is the way to get girls. but that's just a load of crap to get you to buy their method. what works for one man doesn't always work for another.

    the best way I can describe "good game" is simple.

    "be your best self and don't worry about what other people think"


    now about boringness. a wise man once told me "nice guys don't finish last, boring guys do"


    of course that brings the question, what makes someone boring?
    predictability
    if she can predict what you'll do and how you'll react, then you're probably boring.

    odds are these girls have talked to lots of guys and have had lots of experience getting boring answers to typically asked questions.

    examples like
    her: what do you do for a living?
    guy: I work, what do you do?
    her: I work too
    guy:......

    that's about as boring as it gets. girls are used to the fact that lots of guys aren't any fun to talk to at all.

    you have to be more interesting. that doesn't mean you have to be ridiculous (even though being ridiculous is a lot of fun) you just have to bring some energy to the conversation.

    her: what do you do for a living?
    me: have you ever gone to a restaurant and ordered a nice juicy steak?
    her: yeah, I just had one the other day...
    me: well I'm the guy who cooks it.
    her: really? you should cook for me.
    me: just go to (restaurant) and order a steak, though I warn you, I will touch your meat (using a sexual innuendo to bring some tension)
    her: lol, i'll be sure to order some beef stroken-off
    me: lol, too bad that's not on the menu silly girl

    see the difference? instead of just telling her what I do, I lead her into a flirty conversation. I didn't have to be ridiculous, I just had to be more entertaining than all the boring guys she talks to.

    good game is almost indescribable, you'll just have a really good feeling about it. it takes time and effort to get good, keep at it, you'll get there eventually.

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    Default Re: Having trouble with my Game

    There is no game "that works most of the time" or has a higher success rate,no matter how good you are/good looking or rich,there will always be rejections,the only thing that matters is how you take it.

    Think about it,we face rejections everywhere in society today and usually we take them well,you went to a job interview and they didn't call you,you do an entrance exam or any exam for that matter and fail,but we live with that and try again,until we find a job or we keep studying until we pass the exam,although passing an exam depends mostly how well you prepared it's still a rejection that you face,you understand the material that you're bad at and can prepare for it more.

    Same thing applies in PU,the best thing about it is all you need is experience and a good mindset,and the only way to develop a straightforward confident mind set is practice,the more you practice the more you realize that it's not a big deal.

    If you didn't even know about PU,but went out daily and did 10 awkward approaches,in a few months you would develop a routine that the girls like to hear,and eventually you'd be more successful.The best thing you'd be used to talking to girls so much,you would probably look forward to rejections more than successes.

    The only thing that works is confidence,don't look for a higher success rate,look for yourself,dismiss all your insecurities and be confident in yourself.Because when you approach a girl and look awkward that means you feel bad for yourself,you deliver a message that you don't feel like you deserve her to begin with,so how is she going to accept you if you can't accept yourself ?

    In reality PU shouldn't be difficult that's why I feel like canned material,while it works it's just trying too hard,when all it takes is just a confident approach.

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    Default Re: Having trouble with my Game

    Lots of great advice for you in this thread. I just want to add that you should be recording your approaches and then go home listen to them. Make notes of what you did right and what you did wrong in each approach. Pretty soon you'll see a pattern of what's working for you. Then you can refine your game further.

    I still record some approaches to see if I have picked up any bad habits.

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    Default Re: Having trouble with my Game

    thank you guys! it is all great advice. definitely will be using most of it

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    Default Re: Having trouble with my Game

    Quote Originally Posted by danamayo View Post
    What is actually considered good game? so many girls are different. like different things. is there a set "game" that works on most girls?
    I've been thinking a lot about the thoughts behind these kind of questions. We attach so much importance to being accepted by women. And I don't believe anyone thinks they can achieve 100% success rates with women. Rather we are seeking ways to achieve circumstantial rejections. That is, getting rejected for reasons beyond our control (like she has a boyfriend, she's running late, she's a butch lesbian) versus being rejected because we suck (being boring, not attractive, too timid, etc). This is illustrated in the next quote:

    Quote Originally Posted by danamayo View Post
    i am having some trouble trying to have a convo with a girl without making it boring, without rambling about non sense and trying to get a spark going.
    Women don't really care about what you do. Some women are really into cars, or rock climbing, but what I mean is that it's not really important what you do, but that you do it with passion. So get a hobby that you are really into, and talk about it unashamedly. Enthusiasm and passion can't be boring.

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    Default Re: Having trouble with my Game

    Well my approach number is 110 and I am hitting it 3 times this month so it's to begin the Summer! Kick off starts tomorrow at the Bar, then off to the Water Park, and then back at the Club this month. Time for my Summer Gauntlet to begin. But yeah I had 2 chicks want to be with me tonight a 5 & a 6. The 5 wanted me to stay the night and the 6 wanted me to hang out and I ditched them both. The 5 is blowing up my phone. I did it for the validation anyway and won't sleep with them. But we are heading to the Bar tomorrow night! I'll tell you more later but basically just fluff. It's all fluff. Do my classy opener and then banter and then flirt and then kino and then find out about her and then talk. It's just fluff most my convo's only last 5 min to get a broad's number and longer if I feel she might reject me.
    When you let go of your feelings you can really then embrace your surroundings
    Love is a game that's why I don't worry about it anymore. When you let go of your feelings you find your meaning.
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