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    Default Why direct approaches fail normally?

    I was reading a book called "The Rules Of The Game" written by the author of book "The Game". In this game it is said that direct cold approach fails 95% of times and so the way to pick up a woman during the day is opening her indirectly!

    This actually matches my attempts to pick up women in the last one year! I rarely manage to number close a girl directly but indirectly I almost have no problem!

    Having said that , there are benefits in approaching and opening women directly (e.g. the intent being clear) and so I am interested in doing the day game and approaching women directly. But having a very low success rate is making it frustrating.

    Does anyone know a game changer by which I can improve my success rate at direct day game?

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    Default Re: Why direct approaches fail normally?

    Yeah watch the following on youtube :

    Honest Signalz

    Simple Pickup

    I think the reason you're not successful with direct is because you're either not approaching enough or you're uncomfortable with it(body-language/mind-set).

    Direct is the best during Daygame IMO,because most of the girls you encounter during day game are going out with a purpose,so if you just get straight to the point and they reject you,well you wasted a whole 30 seconds on 1 girl,zero risk,high reward.

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    Default Re: Why direct approaches fail normally?

    @Aussie

    RA1D above suggested SIMPLEPICKUP, and a HIGHLY suggest them in one thing..... their way of getting over the initial hump of engaging women is SCARY GOOD.

    LINK HERE the game is called "GO" and is what me and my wingman did back in the day when we started to learn all we could on PUA.

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    if you're good with indirect game, than i'm not sure why you haven't figured out your own "Direct" game yet.... as, all the initial material you get into (strauss/simple/dicarlo etc) are to get you use to establishing your own game through practicing with dummy routines.

    AUSSIE, may i suggest you read about "frame".?? because i am guessing that you seem shaky with delivery --- which i'm guessing is why you can't number close with a DIRECT approach.

    Conclusion
    i think what you have is that you're still raw in learning.... there is NO SHAME in knowing some stuff and practicing it -- and still not being proficient.

    what i am saying is, DIRECT game is what you learn to come into... observe that even the MASTERS who teach indirect game move the way they interact with women to a MORE DIRECT engagement after indirect open.... in essence, the DIRECT game is MINUS an INDIRECT warm up.

    does that make sense.?

    remember, practice practice practice.... you are only getting what you put in -- and if you're not getting what you want --- it's because you're not putting into it.


    GL

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    Default Re: Why direct approaches fail normally?

    ordinary direct game that lots of guys fail at using goes something like this:

    guy: wow! you look amazing.
    her: thanks
    guy: ...... (speechless) (or some awkward conversation that fallows)

    the problem is simple, most guys fail to transition from a direct opener into an actual conversation (its harder to transition from a direct opener) (also if you don't do it with 100percent confidence you won't succeed)

    personally I like a cross of direct and indirect.
    my convo might look something like this:

    me: hey, your hair looks awesome, I love how you died it.

    her: thanks, my sister did it for me.

    me: wow, it takes a bold person to put that many colors in your hair. I bet you're real adventurous.

    her: well maybe...

    me: ok then tell me, what was the most adventurous thing you've done so far this year?

    her: blah, blah

    see what I did there? I complimented her on something about her appearance, and then I gave her the character trait "adventurous" then I pull her into a conversation so she can prove to me that she has that character trait.

    later on, because I complimented her on her "character traits" she will feel like I genuinely like her for who she is, rather than just because she's pretty.


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