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    Default Girl playing games/being awkward... call her out?

    Known this girl for years and a while back (late last year) she knows I like her... i'm pretty sure she liked me too around that time period. We used to flirt quite a bit and went on a date or two before things eventually faded out. Anyway, got a snapchat from her today asking about my work. In my work we make graphics for cars and she was looking a quote. I had mentioned ages ago to her that I could get discount for friends so I immediately thought she is gonna use/play me.

    At the time I got the snapchat I was out of town and didn't have much 3G data left or wifi. I told her to text me the details of what she wanted so I could get a quote when I'm back in work and then she snapchatted me asking for my number as she had changed hers. So I sent her my number via Facebook messenger and she said to just contact via messenger instead of her texting me (meaning she has my number but doesn't give me her new one). I explained that I had no 3G or wifi and that FB messenger was loading slowly - so it would be easier to just text and for her to send me her new number (only have the old one). She then snapchatted me making up silly excuses saying she can't be bothered and being awkward/teasing. So I eventually I just ask her via snapchat for the details so I could get the quote.

    Here is my question. Tomorrow I am going to get the quote and then say for her to either text me or call so that I can explain the quote and the various options in detail. No way am I gonna explain over snapchat as that would take too long. Still won't have wifi or 3G data for a while when i'm out and about so Facebook messenger isn't an option. I have a feeling that she is gonna refuse the text/call and just tease/be awkward to wind me up. So how should I play this?

    Want to let her know that I don't have time for silly games and that she should give me her new number so I can text/call with the quote details. At the same time, don't want to come across as annoyed if she refuses/plays games or desperate for her number (remember she knows that I like her - although tbh not so much now). Having her new number would also be useful for organizing future house parties as she knows a lot of girls that I might be interested in.

    Suggestions?

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    Default Re: Girl playing games/being awkward... call her out?

    First of all,if a girl was acting this way towards me,regardless of me liking her or her knowing that I like her,I wouldn't even be interested in hooking up with her.

    Second,I would make it clear to her that what she's asking you is a part of your job which you don't do over the texts/text messenger/snapchat or whatever it is.

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    Default Re: Girl playing games/being awkward... call her out?

    I'm not interested in hooking up with her as such but keeping her friendship and getting her new number could prove useful... and yes, it is needed for my job as well.

    Thing is, how to go about saying this. Don't want it to come across that i'm angry or let her know that she is getting to me with the teasing/silly games. Don't want it to sound like i'm just after her new number either.

    I can still snapchat her... but even that loads slowly - although faster than FB messenger - hence the preference for text/call. Since she knows that I like her (or used to like her) she will probably play games and not give out her number. Yeah... she's one of those annoying tease types.

    Supppose I could just say something like:

    Got your quote sorted. Call or text me for info
    and if she refuses/ plays games:

    Do you want this quote or not? No time for games
    OR

    Call or text for quote details. Stop being awkward
    Not giving the quote over snapchat. Call or text.
    Problem with snapchat is that you are limited to one sentence with a photograph. I could possibly send a longer message through FB messenger but then she will insist on using that and hence won't need to give out her new number.

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    Default Re: Girl playing games/being awkward... call her out?

    The best way to show her that you're not angry is to make her call you.

    "Got your quote sorted. Call or text me for info"

    If she refuses,don't respond.

    When she contacts you again.

    Respond with :
    "My # is : xxxxxxxxx"

    If she starts being even more awkward,don't respond,this in no way shows that you're angry,you're willing to help,but you're busy and you can't help her if she doesn't even want to talk to you.Treat people the same way they treat you,if she wants to get a quote AND get a discount without even talking to you,I don't see why you should care that she's awkward,you liking her is irrelevant here,it's your job.

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    Default Re: Girl playing games/being awkward... call her out?

    I have to agree with Ra1d here, I wouldn't want to hook up with her if she is acting like this either, she would be lucky if I even did anything for her through work.

    Right now she's got you playing her game!!

    I wouldn't have justified to her why you couldn't use messenger or snapchat. That to me sounds like you're apologizing for it and if you had Wi-Fi you would quite happily play along with her. It's simple, you want to talk? call/text me!!

    But it's your decision so here is my advice.

    You definitely don't want to get angry or react in anyway at all. Again, you're just playing into her games.
    You have the right attitude with your text ideas, however, if you want to keep her around for whatever reason then I would be a little more fun than just "no number, no quote". Tease her a little, get back some value and make her play your game!

    Hey ya big dork (or any sort of nickname), these graphics are looking awesome!! Have you got your big girl pants on today, cause you're going to have to call me for the details

    Or go completely overboard and exaggerate a professional message:

    Hi xxxxx,
    We would like to advise that after a long and detailed deliberation your quote has been reviewed and finalised. Please contact me for further details and any questions you may have regarding this delicate matter.
    Kind Regards,
    xxxxx
    Your number

    Obviously there's a little more investment on your part in the second option and I would even try and throw in a few really big words just to exaggerate it further. Those are just off the top of my head. Maybe even throw in a funny job title above your name!

    And if she replies and still says that she won't call then move the fark on!! If you really feel the need to reply then tell her you're not playing childish games anymore if she wants to talk she needs to grow up. While ever you keep replying and try to convince her she should call you, you're losing value.

    Hope that helps mate, and maybe some of the experts can chime in with some ideas for a message!? I'm looking at you T-mal lol

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    Default Re: Girl playing games/being awkward... call her out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kvn07 View Post
    Hey ya big dork (or any sort of nickname), these graphics are looking awesome!! Have you got your big girl pants on today, cause you're going to have to call me for the details

    And if she replies and still says that she won't call then move the fark on!! If you really feel the need to reply then tell her you're not playing childish games anymore if she wants to talk she needs to grow up. While ever you keep replying and try to convince her she should call you, you're losing value.
    Thanks for the input guys. Think I will go with the message quoted above as it doesn't require as much investment and sounds more fun, which is the style of texting I usually have with her.

    I haven't talked to her since late Thursday night and it's now Saturday evening where I am. She didn't respond to my last snapchat which was basically to get some more confirmation about the graphics she was after. However, she did send me a snapchat photo of herself today basically showing off her new makeup... so I think she is trying to get my attention or for me to compliment her/chase more?

    I don't intent to respond to her until Sunday as i'm aware she is out drinking with friends tonight and most likely won't be sober or have time. She is a tease and plays games - especially since she knows I like her - although I have never explicitly stated this. It's just a case of trying to get her to play MY game and chase me like she used too and to regain some of my lost value.

    Don't intend to hook up or do anything serious but I might be interested in targeting some of her close friends in the near future so hence I would prefer to get her new number and remain on good terms and to increase my value with her. If anyone has anymore pointers then feel free to chime in.

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Girl playing games/being awkward... call her out?

    Personally, I don't have time for that shit at all. It sounds to me like she is just craving some validation because she is feeling like crap lately, and wants you to make her feel better.

    IF you choose to do the graphics for her, I like the approach of being completely professional. I have no problem giving professional contacts my phone number and speaking with them on the phone.

    By not giving you her number she is being a total shady bitch and I wouldn't consider her worth the time or effort, just freeze her out completely until she complies, which she probably won't because she just wants the validation you are giving her.

    Take a completely professional tone with her and make it business.
    KISS - Keep it Stupid Simple

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    Default Re: Girl playing games/being awkward... call her out?

    Thanks for your response, Blistex you make a good point. IF she drags this on I won't have time for the nonsense either but don't want to let her know that I am angry or that she is winding me up. Am interested in gaming her friends so don't want to fall out either.

    How about something like:

    Hey, Finally got round to getting your quotation sorted out. There's a few different prices and material options available depending on what you choose. Give me a call on ##### so I can explain the details and time frame for completion.
    and if she decides to still play games:

    No need to be awkward. If you genuinely want this quotation and any possible discount then call me. I'm a busy guy and have no time for silly games or whatever this is.
    A no-nonsense approach but without being harsh or angry.

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    Default Re: Girl playing games/being awkward... call her out?

    Those two statements show weakness on your part, that you are assuming she is playing games. The accomplish the opposite of what you want to. Never, not ONE SINGLE TIME has using a statement like this ever worked for me. Think of a better way, I guarantee you will regret doing something like that.
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    Default Re: Girl playing games/being awkward... call her out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blistex View Post
    Those two statements show weakness on your part, that you are assuming she is playing games. The accomplish the opposite of what you want to. Never, not ONE SINGLE TIME has using a statement like this ever worked for me. Think of a better way, I guarantee you will regret doing something like that.
    So should I be more playful as kvn07 suggested? I thought his suggestions were great but then realised that with this particular girl I would just be giving her validation and playing into her game.

    Ultimately I need two messages. One to let her know that I have the quote sorted out and to call me / send her number for details. Then the second a counter message IF she decides to play games.


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