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    Cool 1st Date Went Well. Think She Might Be A H*e Though

    Hello there Pick Up Gods. Haven't posted in a while. But here's my issue.

    Yesterday was the day of my date I had setup with a HB9 I had met at a party a couple months back. Number closed, and ocassionally texted to come hang but she would always be doing something else. Soon after one night at a bar we made out. Probably three times on different ocassions. The third was the one I agressively pursued and had her on my lap. Kissing and very sexual kino. Tried to convince her to go back to her place and "hang" but she said it wouldn't be that easy and I had to work for it. I proposed we go on a date and she was fine with that. Texted her a couple days later and set it up plain and simple.

    *I will also admit that I kinda am seeing anothed girl. HB8. Older girl (29 I'm 23) but fine as hell and more mature although reserved. Been dating her at a snails pace since Jan because I admit she is kinda boring and shy. Kissed her once. We stopped talking for 2 weeks and are back talking and making plans to hang out.

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    Yesterday the date started round 7. Picked her up, date went very well. I had alot of fun I'll admit. But two things bothered me that I'm kinda weary

    1. She admited that her and her friends share boys. And she hadn't had a threesome in awhile. And that she's not used to dating and our date was the 3rd date she ever been on. She also said the main thing that got her on this date was that I was persistant and on it when it came to setting it up and she liked that. Honestly a threesome sounds awesome lolol. But I got off some slut vibes. Matterfact I know like two guys that already hit it. And would see her hooking up and flirting with alot of guys a couple weeks before the date. But nonetheless I had the calm cool face.

    2. I kissed closed at her house when I dropped her off. She agreed to go to the local bar and have a few drinks but she drove her car this time (knew I wasn't getting any when that happened lol). At the bar thinga went cool, but she sat a couple inches away. And whenever I tried to make move she wouldn't resist but said she doesn't like public display of affection. I call her weird and she says "I am I like to keep you guessing". Throughout the night I kept saying we should chill at her place alot (being that I had to move in with my parents). She thought about it and said maybe, but she has a headache. I kinda roll my eyes lol. But when it was time to leave we made out heavy in the parking lot in a more private area. I still suggest we should go back to her place and "chill" lol. But she says no I have a headche, ya'know typical excuses girls use. She leaves, I'm kinda frustrated. But the date was alot of fun nonetheless.


    What I'm kinda confused is. Did she turn down sex because she really likes me and doesn't wanna be seen as a slut? Do she want more out of this? I think she really likes me and didn't expect to have such a good time. Maybe she wants to be my girlfriend idk but I don't teally want her as my girlfriend. (I fear she will cheat lol). I kinda want the other girl I mentioned to be because I feel she's just more mature, reserved and will honestly be good for me since I'm trying to change me stupid partying ways.

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    Default Re: 1st Date Went Well. Think She Might Be A H*e Though

    Hey man here is my guess but I might be wrong.
    I get a "slut" vibe from what she has told you so I a am quite sure she is already sleeping with one or more guys already. The reason that she turned down sex might be that she already is getting plenty of it, or you never know, she might be going to have sex with another dude that night!
    You sound interesting to her because apparently guys normally pick her up to shag her and they don't offer her a 'date'. More than she likes you she likes going on dates! That is why she goes out with you but she feels a headache when it comes to sex.

    Women have an exceptional ability to adapt their "Facade" depending on what type of guy they are dealing with. If they deal with a good guy (like you) they act like a good girl and that is why she told you that you had to try harder! When it comes to a bad ass guy, they pull down their pants easily and quickly.

    I don't think she will be a good girlfriend material. If she is sexy and you want to shag her, I would say stop offering her nice things like a 'date' and instead put your bad-boy hat on and escalate faster so that you can make her want to sleep with you.

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    Default Re: 1st Date Went Well. Think She Might Be A H*e Though

    ^^I agree with the above. Personally, I think you need to be stronger in presenting your intent with her. I might be reading your details wrong as well but it doesn't sound like you're paying attention to her IOI's if she kept pulling away from PDA. I think you should readdress your approach so it doesn't sound so direct in relating to sex if you're finding all of these hurdles to jump through. These girls might be looking for someone to spark their interests emotionally because they might have enough sexual activity going on in their lives. Maybe you need to be gaming girls that are only in for sex if that's your goal.

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    Default Re: 1st Date Went Well. Think She Might Be A H*e Though

    I actually had the same thought that she would probably be doing a guy that night or might have just a surplus of guys around. The problem is I'm actually not a good guy, I used to be a huge prick (alot girls think my circle of friends are asses too) lol I have alot of girls in the past that downright hate my guts. And I'm used to playing Alpha Male, and Cocky and Funny to a good degree. But I'm trying to change, the other guy I mentioned (the older one) I feel is just better relationship wise. While slutvibe girl I know I don't want as a girlfriend but as a FB just incase my current thing with the other girl fails. My current thing I'm just confused to is kinda like the phrase "can't turn a hoe into a housewife". And I feel she's trying to connect on a emotional level where I just eant her for the sex. But I guess I'll try to be more direct when if I see her tonight.

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    Default Re: 1st Date Went Well. Think She Might Be A H*e Though

    no matter what you think of yourself you're always going to be your own worst enemy on top of being selfish. and i don't mean selfish in a bad way. its good to be selfish because you ultimately know what you want and you're sticking to your guns. to a woman this can be very attractive because you dont need her to mother you.

    as for turning a hoe into a housewife... its debateable. it all depends on the person and what they want out of life. you should be clear about your intent with her. you can be both an emotionally stimulating male who dives deep into conversations but also someone who is sexually confident who simply enjoys sex. you dont have to change your life for a woman--and again some women enjoy this about a man because it means you are your own person if you can own up to it. it's respectable.


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