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Thread: Tinder Girl - HELP

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    Default Tinder Girl - HELP

    Matched with an HB9 last night and started the conversation with a funny classic opener. I need an opinion on whether you guys think the conversation is dead or if it can be saved:

    Me: Are you a banana?! Because I find you apeeling! lol

    HB: You can do better then that

    Meid you invent the airplane? Because you seem Wright for me!
    Me: Better? Worse? No Change? lol

    HB: Better. Still not good though lol

    Me: Whoa Whoa! Hold on... Do you know what my shirt is made of?! Boyfriend material!
    Me: That's all I got, its late lol


    Now she hasn't responded yet, but, I have a feeling this convo is dying. Is it worth saving? What can I say to try and save this?

    -Eightball

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    Default Re: Tinder Girl - HELP

    that last joke you made i think you should have held off on. reason being you kept falling for her Sh!tTest (in my opinon) of doing whatever she wanted you to do without her doing anything. after the 2nd time she said "HB: Better. Still not good though lol" her anticipation of the next thing you send should either make her cry laughing OR you need to actually break rapport and hold your ground. i think in most cases it would have been easier to hold your ground and get her to jump through a loop saying something like a neg... can't think of one right now off the top of my head.
    Every moment counts, get out of your head and enjoy it.

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    Default Re: Tinder Girl - HELP

    She hasn't responded still so I'm thinking of sending her a message with something along the lines of

    "So obviously you didn't like that last one either, what's the best one you've got?"

    I just need something to reignite the conversation.

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    Default Re: Tinder Girl - HELP

    sounds like that conversation was from last night--if thats the case--i'd suggest if you do message her--treat today as entirely new--girls do this. no reason why you shouldn't.

    if i were you, i think you have better luck opening today with a false choice. what that means is instead of a yes or no answer. generally false choices allow you to direct the conversation or situation. you should also take in the idea that you need to slowly introduce where you're going with these false choices by throwing small hints earlier in your conversation. example would be "Top or Bottom?" regardless of her choice you can turn this into a joke or you can turn it into a sexual situation. the question is thought provoking. and it doesn't mean it has to be sex related. you could say respond to her question with "Oh cool, i also start there when i'm brushing my teeth"

    other false choices...

    "Pancakes or Waffles? I make the best Pancake / Waffles, come over XXXXX at XXXXX and i'll make some"

    "spit or swallow? ok great! lets bounce!"



    --in your situation i think its best to build your false choice scenario around what you've already put out there. so start with "Funny haha or Funny hehe?" ...i'm sticking to the fact that you keep throwing jokes.. regardless of her answer--throw a joke at her. if you can link it to getting her to talk about herself and challenge herself emotionally you're doing much better than falling for her Sh!tTests. I think you should also consider that eventually in the next few lines you need to introduce meeting her...
    Every moment counts, get out of your head and enjoy it.

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    Default Re: Tinder Girl - HELP

    Quote Originally Posted by EightBall View Post
    Matched with an HB9 last night and started the conversation with a funny classic opener. I need an opinion on whether you guys think the conversation is dead or if it can be saved:

    Me: Are you a banana?! Because I find you apeeling! lol

    HB: You can do better then that

    Meid you invent the airplane? Because you seem Wright for me!
    Me: Better? Worse? No Change? lol

    HB: Better. Still not good though lol

    Me: Whoa Whoa! Hold on... Do you know what my shirt is made of?! Boyfriend material!
    Me: That's all I got, its late lol


    Now she hasn't responded yet, but, I have a feeling this convo is dying. Is it worth saving? What can I say to try and save this?

    -Eightball
    Me: Better? Worse? No Change? lol - This is needy and rapport seeking. You have to watch out for this. Your placing her opinion above yours and than letting her directly know it, and shape it. This isn't the workings of a confident man. Working point No. 1.

    Working point No. 2. Avoid the double text! It's so easy to, I know, and you think you'll get a more favorable response if your persistent, but it's persistence in all the wrong ways. Bite your tongue, sit on your fingers, throw your phone in the next room, do what you can to avoid that dreadful follow up message.

    HB: Better. Still not good though lol

    You: Alright miss sassy pants, I'm clearly dealing with an expert. Why don't you give me one so I can steal it and use it as my own


    Just an example. But it's not rapport seeking, needy, or un-confident. It's light, fun, and bantering. Most importantly it doesn't scream for a reply (even if it says reply back so I can use your pick up line).

    Me: Whoa Whoa! Hold on... Do you know what my shirt is made of?! Boyfriend material!
    Me: That's all I got, its late lol


    Three things: First, you've exhausted the thread at this point. After number two the message is clear, your creating rapport through funny pick up lines, now it's time to shift threads and keep rapport as you would with an old friend. i.e. the line above. Second, your boyfriend material definitely says, "I'll hit on you and you decide if you want to date me." It's not really terrible but I may just avoid it next. Finally, your double text (ugghh), and you killed the convo. Even if she did still favor the thread, and find the boyfriend material funny, you basically stated "I just wanted to say those things to talk to you, now either you pick up the conversation or leave it." More times than not, they're going to leave it. Plus, its late, said "I'm tired, I'm going to bed" or "its late, so I can't think and I don't think these were really that good, but I'm hoping you may." She won't.

    Quote Originally Posted by EightBall View Post
    She hasn't responded still so I'm thinking of sending her a message with something along the lines of

    "So obviously you didn't like that last one either, what's the best one you've got?"

    I just need something to reignite the conversation.
    Again, your seeking rapport and placing too much emphasis on how important she is to you. At this point she should be just a stranger your trying to get to know, but your trying to get to know her as the funny, confident, alpha male you are. Keep practicing and work on all aspects of your game, it's going to take time but sooner or later your gonna be able to avoid situations like this all together. I don't see much opportunity for this one to pan out, sorry brother. I'd like to help you send a reigniting text, but if I send out two and don't get a response this early on, I just bounce to the next one. Maybe somebody else can help you with that.

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    Default Re: Tinder Girl - HELP

    Bballking made some great points.

    The only thing I'd say is that the "double text" isn't really as big a deal as a lot of guys think it is. But it depends on the situation & context of the subject.

    Otherwise I agree.
    You're seeking approval and coming off as "try hard".

    I discovered myself doing the same thing early on... especially when I was focused on ONE girl.
    Start gaming several girls & interacting with them at the same time.
    It'll help you avoid trying too hard with any particular girl, and you can gauge the receptiveness of them to see which ones are more your type.



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