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    rogerpaul1234 is offline PUA in Training
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    Default How do you keep the faith in PUA?

    Hi,

    I am a beginner, mid 30s, Canadian living in Germany. Most women say that I am sexily good looking, but still all they want is friendship. Three long term relationships, that's all I have had. Got dumped every time, as I am Mr. Nice Guy. So completely new to this game. I have been trying Richard La Ruina and some tactics like the cube, strawberry fields etc, but always get LJBFed. My flat mates are players so I am reminded of my failure to score every night. Life is becoming hell.
    Things don t seem to work. Last night there was a party and I opened an Italian girl with the female opinion (guy can t forget the old gf, keeps her pictures and letters on his Iphone) and she asked me if it was me, and then went about telling everyone about it. It did not go into a deep talk about relationships which is what the PUA literature says it should. Rather awful. Ran the cube on a girl, then strawberry fields, but still got LJBF. How do I get out of this stage. I am getting completely disillusioned and slowly beginning to think that some people have it, and I don t. Am losing faith in PUA and beginning to think it is all a scam aimed at men with no game like me. I don t want to go this path.
    Please help.

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    Default Re: How do you keep the faith in PUA?

    Do you use kino during your interactions with girls? Do you have DHV spikes in your stories? Is your body language stiff and not energetic?

    It used to happen to me but everyone's different have you read the mystery method or magic bullets?
    "A man who stands for nothing, will fall for anything" - Malcom X

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    Default Re: How do you keep the faith in PUA?

    I'm seeing too much "that routine, this technique" talk in there. Maybe you need to relax a little bit. Do what's your core is telling you to do. Let go of the science and focus on your instincts.
    It's not about who I was or who I'm going to become.

    It's about who I am. Do it right here, right now.

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    rogerpaul1234 is offline PUA in Training
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    Default Re: How do you keep the faith in PUA?

    I use kino, I use the mystery method, DHV. I am very good at telling stories, and can make girls laugh. I have naturally flowing body language as I have always been a touchy feely kind of person. However, sometime in the interaction I lose any attraction and get LJBFed. It could happen same night, or it could happen over a couple of dates, but the end is the same.
    Being myself does not work sine that is what brought me to PUA in the first place. Can anyone tell me what method worked out for you, I mean from AFC to PUA? Mystery? Natural Game? Can t imagine living like this, especially as my flat mate scored another chick and I can hear them. It is like twisting the knife...

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    Default Re: How do you keep the faith in PUA?

    Quote Originally Posted by rogerpaul1234 View Post
    Can anyone tell me what method worked out for you, I mean from AFC to PUA? Mystery? Natural Game?
    It was a mixture for me it was some of Mystery, Style then it was some tips from friends and experience i also googled "alpha male charateristics pua" when I started being PUA as long as you stand straight people will notice and may actually mention it to you infront of girls I take it as a DHV but anyway if you feel like you dont know when to pull the trigger

    I suggest youtubing and "Style Annihilation Method" "SimplePickup" they have a good few tips on when and how to escalate for different situations.
    "A man who stands for nothing, will fall for anything" - Malcom X

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    Default Re: How do you keep the faith in PUA?

    how did you get ljbf'd right after the opener? Did you ask her to be yours on the first interaction or something? If so, that will just creep them out. Sounds like you need to read more about inner game and get rid of some of your limiting beliefs.

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    rogerpaul1234 is offline PUA in Training
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    Default Re: How do you keep the faith in PUA?

    Hi

    No, I did not get LJBFd, but I could see her interest level go down. She then began to talk to others, did not re initiate conversation, and began to hit on my flatmate who is the AMOG here. He is a natural. I need to get rid of my limiting beliefs, yes, but at the core of it is the fear that if PUA does not work, then I have no hope. That's why I asked for somebody's input on how they kept going in these moments.

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    Default Re: How do you keep the faith in PUA?

    Honestly, if you live with a naturally skilled PUA, observe what he does and copy or literally ask him to teach you. If you live together, then thats definitely a possibility and probably the best.

    Literally accept everything he says even if it seems wrong, see how it changes your game, compare it to what you've learnt here, then you can work on refining it to who you are as a person
    It's not a task, its a pleasure. Enjoyment reached from strengthening the foundation, not a new coat of paint.

    Oh, and getting laid is pretty farking awesome too!

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    rogerpaul1234 is offline PUA in Training
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    Default Re: How do you keep the faith in PUA?

    I tried that, but basically he is typically natural. He is not a PUA, in the sense that he never had to learn the skill and does not know what it is. He is good looking too, which gives him an advantage. However, I am good looking too, and very well built, so it must be more than looks. I talked to him, but as with any natural you get crap advice, be yourself, have confidence, you should find a woman who loves you, not get into the hook up culture blah, blah, blah etc.

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    Default Re: How do you keep the faith in PUA?

    Tell him alright then, let me tag along to the bar then or where he goes. And all you do is simply contribute as little to the conversation as possible with looking awkward, or sit a table away and just listen in. Hell put a mic on him, it doesnt matter, just listen to the man speak naturally. Also check his body language, and tone of voice. Those are huge, and worth even more the words themselves.
    It's not a task, its a pleasure. Enjoyment reached from strengthening the foundation, not a new coat of paint.

    Oh, and getting laid is pretty farking awesome too!


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