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    Default Reflections after 1 year in the field

    Hi vets,
    Im over 35+, 6’2’’ (1.86 cm), fit body, face is 6. I am introverted mostly and not much social in my whole life. I had been beta and chode all my life until I learnt game.
    I am in game for more than 2 years. I started to approach girls 14 months ago. I want to make some reflections about my approaches.
    1- Since I hit mostly girls younger more than 10 years of me, I use indirect method. I live in a conservative and strong social groups state, and I am approaching only local girls. Since I dont have value before the approach, I dont believe direct method is suitable for me. To be honest, I dont have courage to say one of the local 15 year younger girls “you are georgeous”. It seems to me they didnt deserve it, and if i say it i will be seen as creepy.
    2-I have dates with some girls, but no girl was relationship material. Many of them were in 5-6s range. 7s and upper just were out of my reach. Now Im focusing on my style and lifestyle to hit upper range young girls. Until now Im not successful. Maybe they are out of my league. Many young girls think that I am old for them I guess, since this is a conservtive region.
    3-All of numbers were from malls, supermarkets, bookstores etc. I made Street apporaches as well asking “ where is nereast starbucks” and for transition “ you have Accent”, “you have nice style” etc. From streets I didnt get any number until now. Street game is not for me I guess. It needs more direct style, I wonder is there any guy who is successful on Street from indirect approach.
    My 2 problems are
    1-I have difficulty to get number from street game by using indirect approach. Anybody successful on streets by indirect game? If so, what kind of method do you use?
    2-Until now, I couldnt get date with 7s and above girls. Do you think they are out of my league? Or should i persist approaching more, since my technics will be better in future maybe?

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    Default Re: Reflections after 1 year in the field

    2-Until now, I couldnt get date with 7s and above girls. Do you think they are out of my league? Or should i persist approaching more, since my technics will be better in future maybe?
    no they are not out of your league. if anything you have a huge advantage in the dating field (your height) I would kill to be 6 foot tall.

    woman usually want guys who are taller than them, all you need to succeed is a good since of humor and you could have any girl you want.

    honestly direct approach should work fine for you, if only you were as confident as you are tall.

    Many of them were in 5-6s range.
    if you want 10s, approach 10s. in a phrase "you get what you focus on"

    1-I have difficulty to get number from street game by using indirect approach. Anybody successful on streets by Indirect Game? If so, what kind of method do you use?
    really? getting numbers should be no problem. just don't make a big deal of it. just hand your phone to the girl and tell her to put her number in it.

    read this: http://www.puaforums.com/picking-up-...tml#post120122

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    Default Re: Reflections after 1 year in the field

    Yeah, i too get the feelin you're too goal oriented with ykur game. Remember the game isnt so much to get numbers, dates or close--its to improve your life. The only way you can fully do that is by reflecting as to who you are and being the best version of that. Sometimes it requires a lot of analytical self evaluation and in other times it requires you to get out of your head and have really have fun meeting new people you've never met.

    There's a study on OkCupid that says about 80% of women find men on their site less than average in in looks. While thats being said there are many women who although have their standards in looks really like being challenged in regards to personality that makes a man more attractive. Think about it, although we would like amazing an HB10 with a crappy attitude we probably would still perfer to be with a HB7 with an amazing personality. Im saying standards are great to start but when you find something of great value to you youd be will to compromise. Ultimately women will too.
    Every moment counts, get out of your head and enjoy it.

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    Default Re: Reflections after 1 year in the field

    Thanks dudes..
    The problem with street game I ask "Do you know nearest starbucks", they give me direction. I try to transition by commenting "You have different accent", "You have nice style", but they reply with "yes, no", "thank you", and they start to walk again.

    On streets I cannot get hook point and transition is very difficult. Is it inner game issue, or they think I asked them fake question and they dont hook for the follow up conversation.

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    Default Re: Reflections after 1 year in the field

    Did you try bars or popular night spots for HB8+?

    Just keep confident, and remind yourself that you are quite a catch. We have a thread for Daygame on the street somewhere. I think one is "Hey, smile. Life's not so bad."

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    Default Re: Reflections after 1 year in the field

    All of the replies are very helpful in general. Thanks dudes.

    Let me explain myself more. Im 38 now. My first language is not English. In all my life before game, I was not able to talk with strangers.
    Now for the topics.

    In 14 months I made many approaches in day and got some dates. Dates were not longer than 1 month. For most, I didnt want relation with these girls, since they were 6s at most. Also, I am not in game for pussy. My aim is to get quality girlfriend. Before game, all my gfs were from social groups, so I thought if I can take numbers like that, It would be better in future and I would be able to reach 7s and upper. So I continued to approach.
    Unfortunately, until now I am not able to reach them. Because I work 9-5, approaching girls take time from social life. I ignored my social life. If your only fun in life becomes approaching girls, approach quality drops, become monotonous.. It becomes something like work. It resulted in approach to number ratio to decline.
    In the beginning, my aim was to learn game and everything was excitement for me. Now, since I am more goal oriented (finding girlfriend material), it makes me outcome dependent. It kills my vibe and it affects approach to number ratio.

    To get rid of monotonous approaches and to feel excitement again, I decided to try different venue. I was at the malls, grocery stores etc., now I goto streets. However street game is different animal, all girls go to somewhere, and they are busy by walking.

    My approach:
    Girl and me walk in opposite way, when 3 meters away I open, she stops and turn to me, I turn to her as well, and we are face to face. After opener I use transition, and she doesnt hook. If I use "where is near starbucks" as opener, they want to answer in the shortest possible way, and it kills my vibe. After their reply, I say "you have different style, accent" etc. But they dont hook. If I would use the same method for the standing girls, they would hook probably.Maybe I should use false time constraint on street. I t would show them I will not take their time and Im not seller or bum on street.

    I am not able to kill their momentum on street. In addition, I dont have courage to use direct for the girls 15 years younger than me. On streets If I get more aggressive and continue to talk after opener, I feel like creepy, I easily eject. I see the girl start moving, and I dont want to take their time I guess.

    Night game is not for me, I dont like loud music and dancing all night, since Im 38 I guess

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    Default Re: Reflections after 1 year in the field

    Quote Originally Posted by purplelake02 View Post
    Thanks dudes..
    The problem with street game I ask "Do you know nearest starbucks", they give me direction. I try to transition by commenting "You have different accent", "You have nice style", but they reply with "yes, no", "thank you", and they start to walk again.

    On streets I cannot get hook point and transition is very difficult. Is it inner game issue, or they think I asked them fake question and they dont hook for the follow up conversation.
    You know the old saying, if it aint broke don't fix it? Well, if you aren't seeing results, you should fix it. Example, switch up your transition. Instead of accent of style, you should work on straight up being like you're very beautiful and I wanted to give you the pleasure of meeting me. A bit cocky funny. Mainly just keep pushing yourself. If doing something makes you nervous or scared, you should push yourself to do it

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    Default Re: Reflections after 1 year in the field

    Asking for directions is useless for your game because if you're disingenuine in meeting people itll be obvious youre misleading people to manipulate them rather than being honest and forward which most people are flattered with.
    Every moment counts, get out of your head and enjoy it.

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    Default Re: Reflections after 1 year in the field

    if you're going to ask for directions, be bold about it.

    example:

    me: hey could you tell me something?
    her: ok? what is it?
    me: if I were to take a pretty girl like you out for coffee near here, where would we go?
    her: well there's a nice Starbucks just a block from here.
    me: lets go there, coffees on me
    her: sure.

    see how mutch better that was than just asking "where's the nearest starbucks?"

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    Default Re: Reflections after 1 year in the field

    Normally I would advise against being complementary like that, but when you're gaming during the day time it works more often.

    Women don't have the usual defense shields up as much during the day, and you SHOULD be more direct because you don't have as much time, since they're usually on their way somewhere.

    Asking for directions is tough, because when she answers you, it signals the end of the interaction... so then you're left with the awkwardness of having to "re-open".

    Being direct cuts through the crap & gets down to what you're really interested in.



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