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    Default My plan, does it suck? (it's long ;))

    I've been putting this off for some time now, but I really want to outline my idea of game, my sticking points, and how I plan on fixing them. The reason I have this need is because I realy want to get the communities feedback on it, and because I have no confidence in my abilities to fix this right.

    What is game to me?
    The way I see it game consists of inner game and outer game. Inner game is confidence and a level of comfort with who you are as a person, and what you have to offer the world, society and individuals. Outer game is how you present that to the world, society and individuals. When used to attract a woman, it can be separated into three phases which I stole from Gambler's "how to have killer conversation." Mr. Sociable, Mr. Comfort and Mr. Seduction. Please feel free to correct this.

    Why does my Inner game suck?
    For the most part, my Inner Game is pretty solid. I like me. I have a good job, I make good money, I have a great sense of humor and an easy smile. I am physically attractive, tall and broad shouldered and have good posture. I'm intelligent and well read, and am perceived to be competent.

    Until I decide to hit on an attractive woman. That great Inner game pretty much disappears. The crazy thing is that this only happens when I start thinking about sex. I'd be fine around attractive women. I believe it's because I am for some reason embarrassed that they know that I am thinking about sex. Like they have the ability to read my mind.

    Also the unknown gets into my head. Are they single? Are they just out with their friends, not wanting to be approached? I've had some pretty awful experiences with the latter. I would like to note that all of my relationships have come from the internet. So I did a good job of avoiding this unknown factor, but I really think this cripples me and I'd like to change it.

    The only solution I've seen is to simply approach often, and to have conversations with random strangers. I've already been doing this, and have been seeing some improvements.

    What's wrong with my outer game?
    Mr. Sociable is where attraction is seeded. I'm not very social, but I can be sociable. When I am sociable I get some good results. However, I am so not comfortable going places alone. It's very frightening. All of my single friends moved out of state, and I have no idea how to make new ones. I decided to join a swim team to maybe help with this. Every thing else I think of doing I resist.

    Mr Comfort is easy for me. My sticking point is being Mr. Comfort while simultaneously moving towards seduction. I don't kino, I don't flirt. Pretty straight forward solution, it just takes practice.

    Mr. Seduction is not a problem at all. I've always felt my segues into this phase were sudden and awkward, but that's just from not escalating properly during the comfort stage. I think I have a great advantage in having the mind frame that once I get here, it's game over: I win. Check and mate

    So there it is in a nutshell. My biggest sticking point is in being mr. sociable. I have a lot of anxiety around this. Just contemplating this brings a tightness to my chest. I hope exercising more alleviates this a little, and can act as a springboard into other things. If you see any holes in this plan, I'd appreciate it being pointed out.Thanks!

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    Default Re: My plan, does it suck? (it's long ;))

    This is pretty decent however my Inner Game and Outer Game looks little different. My Outer Game plan is stuff like getting my dream car, my own pad, bigger wardrobe, tattoos, gym, lots of movies for sleep overs, and video games for freeze outs. My Outer Game is a 5 year plan.

    Inner Game to me is everything in me. My openers, approaches, closing rate, routines, etc. I went out to the Bar the other night and didn't do a single cold approach but warm reads or they approached/opened me. And my game sucked. But I still got a 10's number. I used to always be closing every 7 and every 8 but now I just let them waltz away and they feel like they don't deserve it anyway. But I closed my first 10 at the same Bar I have had issues with before. It was because I broke the 3 second rule in order to allow for better timing the approach went so well. She was begging me to call her, text her, and asking my name right away along with showing tons of IOI's.

    So no I don't think my Inner Game is very good but I just closed my 1st 10 before even running my Summer Gauntlet so it's going to be a crazy Summer. I just got done dating 2 chicks at work and have a 18yr old texting me like her phone is crack. And thus I am moving away from 7's but moving towards 10's and they are starting to notice me more. At one point when I started I was begging validation from every girl now since I am more congruent 7's sense I am playing them so they sh!t test me the hardest. Because the 9's and 10's like me the most they are giving me less trouble day by day. My confidence is starting to shoot up. Remember confidence comes from experience and success not some false sense of entitlement as that's fake confidence.

    The 9's and 10's are really starting to creep on me so I am happy. The cougars are definitely starting to creep on me. I am feeling like something beautiful is about to happen and I am about to start finally getting laid through Pick Up. This is Year 2 and I feel like I am miles ahead of last year. Not only did I not cold approach last night I warm approached two sets and they were eating it up not a cold fish at all! But I just wasn't feeling my Inner Game so I let it slide and I ended up on the Dancefloor with a hot chick that hit on me. It's because I am going to stop approaching 7's. I no longer need to close them and this pisses them off usually ending pretty ugly since they get mad at me for being there. By doing this I focus more on the high end targets and though they are far less common I am getting farther with them.

    As far as Inner Game goes I know more once the Summer is up and I will be willing to share. For now though just having fun before I hit my Day Game Summer Gauntlet launch party in a couple weeks. I will be practicing more hookup game, SNL game, and Day Game than ever before. By doing this I can run more tests on my Inner Game. My last test on my Inner Game showed I was too stale and I need to step out of my shell more. The reason I was becoming too stale is because I open less targets now that I stopped opening/closing 7's. Because of this I had the confidence to open and close 9's but not 10's. I always used 7's as my crutch for warm ups and while this pumped my state it didn't help with 10's. So it is a lot harder to pump state since I am only approaching high end targets so I will have to find other ways to pump state since I don't have my training wheels anymore!
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    Default Re: My plan, does it suck? (it's long ;))

    Your summer is going to be crazy; I am super impressed by your progress so far, and am using you as an inspiration.

    I am curious to know how you test your inner game though.

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    Default Re: My plan, does it suck? (it's long ;))

    Quote Originally Posted by daffyff View Post
    Your summer is going to be crazy; I am super impressed by your progress so far, and am using you as an inspiration.

    I am curious to know how you test your inner game though.
    Quote Originally Posted by daffyff View Post
    When I am sociable I get some good results. However, I am so not comfortable going places alone. It's very frightening.
    There's your test, maybe not as solid as you have thought. There are certain places that it is just weird to go alone, the movies, the bar, a strip club (maybe ). Even the bar isn't so bad, it just makes you appear to be an alchi if you sit down and order a beer. But, if your inner game is tight, who cares?

    You want to be more socialable? Do more socialable things, especially the smallest ones. I don't want to steal your thread but these are a few things I do to keep a socialable vibe as best I can, and eliminate the pu**y on the pedestal mindset.

    1. Say hi, hey, hi there, hey there, how you doin? to anybody who crosses paths with me and makes eye contact. I'll even go out of my way to say hello to someone when they are not looking. Most of the time people will snap outta of their distant stare and say hi back. I'm yet to run into someone who hasn't.

    2. When your out and your unsure of something, ask somebody. The same as an approach, think it, then do it. "Hey, do you know what aisle I could find the green beans in?" Again, most people never say "go find it yourself" or "you too lazy to look?" They almost are always willing to help and if they don't know, they will just say it, smile and move on. This goes the same for directions. Sometimes I'll just ask for directions even when I don't need em, just to remind myself that people are rarely, if ever, rude. And the same goes for the HBs

    3. If your somewhere where there is a good looking girl that you are not going to approach or aren't confident enough to do so, don't look at her unless you cross paths and can say hi. I can't tell you how many times I've been at the gym and seen guys just eyeing down girls. They notice it and if that guy hasn't approached them, he just lost interest points in her eyes. Don't check her out, don't peek a glance at her a$$, eliminate her as a sexual icon in your mind and soon it will show through your game.

    Again, these are 3 "starting points." Eventually, you'll want to turn those "which aisles" into conversations. And state your observations about people when you think them. You just have to start off small, and build from there. These should get you going.

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    Default Re: My plan, does it suck? (it's long ;))

    i agree with Bballking.

    however i'm actually really used to strip clubs. its actually much easier to just be blunt at a strip club and be forward / direct about your kino, words and if you want a girl to dance with. i started going to these strip clubs when i was 18. lol funny enough yesterday was my first time back to a strip club in about 6 years. through out my time being a regular at a few strip clubs in the past i've built a lot of comfort around being with women and touching them. i will say that strippers are much more forward with you touching them--because well, that's apart of the business. with girls who aren't hired guns by any means you still have the same rules--everything is green (a go) unless it's a redlight (when she tells you its not ok, moves your hand or reacts like she's grossed out). if you're not comfy with kino--my suggestion is goto a strip club once a week and get a lapdance to get used to how to approach a stripper and apply kino--play with that idea with her in practice about what is a green light or a red light. if you don't ask her, she'll assume you know the rules of the game. personally for me i know every stripper is different--so i ask what their red light is. i've done it enough times to know that i don't have to say anything. if you apply this logic to a woman you've already kissed you're pretty much golden and have a better chance of dealing with LMR if you just take your time...

    now i know that the original post was more about breaking rapport and not really about kino--but all this is more about playful teasing, cracking jokes that everyone finds funny or slightly sexual. obviously starting light is key with people you've just met. for me personally--i find it difficult to verbally escalate and physically escalate at the same time. i guess that's cuz i get too focused on one action--but i'm getting better.
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