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Thread: LJBF girl makes a move, I fail to kiss close (incl. things to avoid)

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    Default LJBF girl makes a move, I fail to kiss close (incl. things to avoid)

    My sticking point is making a kiss close. Ignored a girl who had LJBFed me, three weeks later she invited me to a festival, and I said only if it is just the two of us. I then switched off my facebook. (FIRST MISTAKE) She replied "Yes, of course." I had switched off my computer and saw had not seen the last post. She then phoned me, invited me to have tea on her balcony. I said no, let us have wine on the balcony. So far so good, close sitting, legs touching, everything Then I lost the frame (SECOND MISTAKE). Asked her about her life, she began to show me photos of her theater play, trips to other countries etc....and since she had the laptop in her lap I could not make a move. She was nervous, I put her arm on her shoulder. She leaned in. I was a fool, did not make a move and anyway she had the laptop. (THIRD MISTAKE).

    I should have made a move right when she came up. She was expecting it.

    We talked about things, slowly kino went cold, and when I leaned to kiss her, she rejected me. I did not lose the frame, just laughed, leaned back and said, "Look, I lke you as a woman." "Cant we just be friends" "No, I said. I choose my friends, not they me." And then I ejected using World Cup as an excuse. She invited me to call her on facebook, I replied "You can call me...(THIRD MISTAKE, I think I put too much pressure). She did not call, I called later she said she wants some time for herself. She wants to think about it. what would be by next strategy.....please help. I plan to ignore her completely. Any idea if I have a chance?

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    Default Re: LJBF girl makes a move, I fail to kiss close (incl. things to avoid)

    you listed mistakes... are they mistakes on missing out on making out? or mistakes on closing?
    Every moment counts, get out of your head and enjoy it.

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    Default Re: LJBF girl makes a move, I fail to kiss close (incl. things to avoid)

    They are mistakes on both. If you make out, you close.

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    Default Re: LJBF girl makes a move, I fail to kiss close (incl. things to avoid)

    well my friend sometimes less talking is more talking...
    Every moment counts, get out of your head and enjoy it.

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    Default Re: LJBF girl makes a move, I fail to kiss close (incl. things to avoid)

    Re-frame your mind brother, these aren't mistakes they are just learning points. These are four things that you should simply not do next time. And your first mistake, wasn't much of a mistake at all, why do you have to abide by her time frame?

    I see one major learning lesson here for ya, just keep up the kino escalation next time. It's crazy how much touch can get a girl to feel attracted to you. This you already know though.

    On this one, I'd probably wait a little while. If she doesn't get a hold of you in 3 or 4 days, then hit her up with something fun to do. "Hey girl scout, just found this awesome putt putt golf place today, lets go check it out!"

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    Default Re: LJBF girl makes a move, I fail to kiss close (incl. things to avoid)

    If she is inviting you over and allowing your arm around her she will unlikely suddenly move to another country. Take a step back, dont think about it too much and next time you're together kiss her and be persistent in doing so. You may need to re-build some attraction. Dont talk about friendships, or bring anything back to a potential conversation that could change her mind. Just be a confident fun positive successful guy again. If she starts bring up the other day just say 'you're thinking too much'.

    Her having a laptop is not a mistake, switching off FB is not a mistake, loosing your frame is not even really a mistake. The mistake is simply you did not kiss her. There's no point trying to act all alpha and get the one up on her about how strong you are at choosing your own friends etc. Its moot if you didnt kiss. I wouldnt care what she is saying or whether she had a laptop or even a desktop on her lap. I would just kiss. The laptop will be closed and put down in a few seconds. Its really not an obstacle. It's not like a wild bengal tiger was on her lap. If she asked to engage again on facebook after what happened just be calm and say 'sure, I'll be on at....time' Keep it cool and get out of the confusion zone.

    Re-engage with some calm funny banter. Make her laugh. Send her a joke. Pretend like nothing happened. You won't get far if you have the attitude of 'I plan to ignore her completely' and then follow that up with 'Any idea if I have a chance?'. Not if you ignore her completely. By confusing the situation you are only giving her confusion. Give her what she wants and she will give you what you want.


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