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Thread: HB9 with heavy IOI being aloof. Need help

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    Default Re: HB9 with heavy IOI being aloof. Need help

    Quote Originally Posted by I.M.Mortal View Post
    I wouldn't just rely on that. Save your good cards. For example, the busy girl that I mentioned, I only done it to her twice.

    To answer your question, yes, it can. What it does do is it does help what is called "positioning"
    Good! I am thinking of canceling out on her again. She hasn't called me back, but texted me instead. So I have to shift more power to my side.

    Quote Originally Posted by I.M.Mortal View Post
    When you put and maintain yourself in the position of "you're chasing me," women will naturally accept it and fall into the mindset of "Yes, I am chasing this guy" and with you with that higher position/status in her mind, she significantly becomes more attracted to you.
    Yes this is what I am trying to portray on her.

    Quote Originally Posted by I.M.Mortal View Post
    In your case, the girl is genuinely busy. Knowing this, I wouldn't ask her out frequently only to know she has a good chance of flaking. I would hit her up once every so often. Casually throw out an invite. Keep your expectations low and don't overplan until she earns it.

    I also want to point out that there comes a point where the girl is already sold on you. You don't have to work as hard to create attraction, but to maintain it and not fvck up and go AFC and turn her off.
    Definitely will not go AFC.

    Quote Originally Posted by I.M.Mortal View Post
    The most important place to turn up attraction and go full blast is when you first met. When you do meet for a date, because it's been a while, turn it up again.

    Just remember - The art of seduction is all about creating GOOD/POSITIVE emotions. So if you are going to cancel on her to keep power, the trick is how you do it - to maintain your position and good emotions at the same time.
    Many thanks I.M.Mortal. Yes when together I did manage to turn up the attraction. I have to met her again to turn it up even more.
    Make the impossible possible!

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    Default Re: HB9 with heavy IOI being aloof. Need help

    @I.M.Mortal:
    Oh thanks, I thought it'd be, because 22 isn't old, or is it
    (She's two years older than me though, hence the teasing about her age)

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    Default Re: HB9 with heavy IOI being aloof. Need help

    Quote Originally Posted by I.M.Mortal View Post
    In your case, the girl is genuinely busy. Knowing this, I wouldn't ask her out frequently only to know she has a good chance of flaking. I would hit her up once every so often. Casually throw out an invite. Keep your expectations low and don't overplan until she earns it.
    update:
    A friend of the HB9 asked another mutual friend whether I am happy in my current relationship. Wonder if the question was asked for the HB9, as I do not see any other reason for asking, and also since when do they know whether I am in a relationship or not. Could be a trick question. The mutual friend replied to the friend of the HB9 that she would have to ask me personally as she does not know.

    Another IOI is that the HB9 added me on FB.

    I used your text about her being an alien, from hell or heaven .
    HB9: Mondays to Wednesdays I live in hell. Friday till Sunday I live in heaven.
    HB9: I would be boring otherwise <-qualifies herself
    Me: That still leaves Thursdays open . Nice that you are being an interesting person
    HB9: Thursdays I live in between
    Me: Thursdays you are at conference meetings :P


    Looking at the past experience with her and what went on recently with her not answering the phone what would your advise be to set up another meeting?
    I do want to sound it like that I am going to place X and she should join, because this gives her the opportunity to easily cancel out on me just before the meeting and I would have to drive a 3hr drive back to my place.
    Being persistent I also do not want to come out as being needy.
    So this is why I had the idea to set up another meeting and cancel on her again if there is the least bit of flakiness.
    Make the impossible possible!

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    Default Re: HB9 with heavy IOI being aloof. Need help

    Stop worrying about her flaking. If she flakes she flakes.

    If you've gained enough attraction from her she would lock you down as a priority. If you can't run into her to boost your attractiveness in presence the you should consider giving her the option of leading. There is nothing wrong with a woman to lead with a time and place that fits her schedule. Its about how you handle it.
    Every moment counts, get out of your head and enjoy it.

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    Default Re: HB9 with heavy IOI being aloof. Need help

    Well, hopefully you changed up the heaven or hell text a bit to fit your girl because much of it consist of insides jokes between me and my girl.

    Regardless,

    Her response was damn positive. Look how invested it got her into playing along. Solid IOIs there.

    As for your question on how to set up a date without looking needy, here’s how to frame it.

    - Probe her schedule.
    - Block out a day or two. A day you know you will be busy and a day you anticipate she will be busy.

    YOU: "Hey Purgatory, I know this cool place that I’ve been wanting to check out. It’s [xxx] over at [xxx]. I heard the [x] there is simply divine. How’s your schedule looking this week? Thursdays is no good for me. Fridays I got a party to be at."

    What this does is it frames it as you trying to fit her into your busy schedule. The idea is to get her to suggest a day.

    [Once she suggests a date or gives you an idea]

    YOU: Yea Saturday would work, but I can only make it after 7 pm.”

    To confirm the date the day before...

    YOU: “Hey my lost soul, we still rocking it over at [x] at [x time?]

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    Default Re: HB9 with heavy IOI being aloof. Need help

    Stop looking for IOIs and just escalate to learn more. Don't call her out. That's a very reactive action to take. Girls with boyfriends and husbands will always show more interest, which is another reason I think IOIs are overrated.
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