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    Default Re: what to say when you need to game quickly. ie fast food place etc.

    Maybe its just me but it sounds like you just want the same advice to ne worded differenly. Which is fine.
    Every moment counts, get out of your head and enjoy it.

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    Default Re: what to say when you need to game quickly. ie fast food place etc.

    Oh not at all. I appreciate your response. It was like y poo u said worded differently. Same idea. I wasnt sure if my view of establishing attraction was enough or not based on what you said.

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    Default Re: what to say when you need to game quickly. ie fast food place etc.

    Curiosity is attraction.
    When a girl is curious, she wants to know more.
    It's a psychological process.

    Attraction isn't holding hands & making eye contact... That's seduction.

    Rapport doesn't build attraction, but it IS important for progression.

    However; you have to work on attraction first. THEN rapport.
    Attraction comes from being FUN, not "talking".


    A lot of guys make the mistake of thinking that they're doing great because he & the girl made a connection, but that's not really the case. All they're doing is making a " friend" when they do that.


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    Default Re: what to say when you need to game quickly. ie fast food place etc.

    How about seduction plus rapport and skip attraction

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    Default Re: what to say when you need to game quickly. ie fast food place etc.

    You can't seduce without attraction. Its like saying escalating without consent in my book. Others might not view it that way but i think seduction is more of a verb while attraction is more if an identifier.
    Every moment counts, get out of your head and enjoy it.

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    Default Re: what to say when you need to game quickly. ie fast food place etc.

    If there's no attraction, you can't go into seduction.

    The process is this:

    Introduction
    Attraction
    Rapport
    Seductiion
    Relationship Balance

    You can't skip attraction... Unless you wanna creep the girl out, or just make a "friend", by only building rapport.


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    Default Re: what to say when you need to game quickly. ie fast food place etc.

    ok so if im holding her hand and our eye contact is there and its making her nervous and she's coming back always- and others have defined this as seduction- yet its the first thing that happens when we meet- what do I do next? I only have sometime to talk to her I cant really spend too much time. And frankly I dont intend to keep coming back just for this girl. So next time I go to another fast food place how do I go about it?

    i was thinking if this sequence takes place again like i described I would- hold her hand longer (when shes giving me the card)- ask her name, and try and bring up topics that are common to us (hopefully qiucklY) and then show a lot of enthusiasm for it and after she sees me again or even after that convo say I have to go its busy here- let me have your number all the while maintaining eye contact. Is this ok? I mean I dont know how to fit in attraction here except in some natural way (i always tease girls and make fun of them somehow- but its never anything thats obv. geared to build attraction. If they say I like something I'll say that used to be my favorite until you told me that- just silly stuff like that)

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    Default Re: what to say when you need to game quickly. ie fast food place etc.

    Every situation is going to be unique.
    The next girl may not let your touch linger... Don't rely on scripted sequences. Because the moment the situation takes a different turn, or goes out of order, you'll be lost.

    Here's a freebie for ya...
    Next time you go somewhere & you're at the register, tell the girl, " I came here because the people at xxxxx smell funny. But I'm pretty sure YOU all took showers today... Right?"
    Then wink & smile.

    How many other guys would say that to her?
    Probably just one... ME.


    The point is, you can't skip attraction.
    And you don't want to talk about common interests in the very beginning... Do that later on AFTER you get her number & you've flirted more.


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    Default Re: what to say when you need to game quickly. ie fast food place etc.

    haha that was pretty good. I'll definitely keep that in mind.

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    Default Re: what to say when you need to game quickly. ie fast food place etc.

    Yes scripts are to help get started. But the problem with them is that because every situation is different a script doesn't cover that and then you're caught with your tail between your legs. One girl may have just broken up with her bf. One may be about to get married that weekend. Another may just be very liberal and another heavily religious. Now if you use one script for all of them how do you think the results will be? Let's say you only used the script on one of them and based on your results you conclude that from that one woman's response that all women will respond that way. Think about it.

    You definitely are looking for the high risk/high reward route. Which means your success rate will go down no doubt. However, if you do pull it off you have skipped all the preliminary steps and can go right into comfort building and even seduction. There's more than one way to skin a dog. Errr....cat.

    When you're doing high risk/high reward is more about posture, voice, hygiene, attire and less about what you're actually saying.
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."


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