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    Default Met HB9 on a date. Can you evaluate and tell me how it went?

    I met the HB9 today. we met in a nature preserve which basically exists for hooking up because when I asked a student at the nearby college she lauged at the mention of it.

    Before i begin- our plan was to meet here and if things went well we would go out for lunch aftewards. Initially it was all about sex but now it was just to see if we would get along.

    Anyway- I saw her there. We embraced and kissed. I held her hand and teased her- I appreciate holding my hand but we just met. we still held hands - she didnt pull away. we sat down across each other and i told her to sit next to me so she did. i had my arm around her and we were just looking at each other. i teased her. she talked about how she had a rough day and her x was being a pain. I ignored it and brought her closer- we kissed. We spent some time together- maybe 15 minutes here. she said that she had to go back to work by 2 (since she had taken time off work to see me- i dunno how true this is- in previous texts when we were going to sleep together she simply said that she had to get off work at 12 and had to leave by 5 for her kid).

    We went towards an observatory but it was blocked by mud. I told her to put her arms around me and I would carry her. she didnt say anything and said there was another way around. I felt really beta here- like somehow I wasnt man enough to ccarry her. but I let it go. I guess I could have grabbed her but I wasnt that confidenet. It may have come across. I brushed it off.

    we walked my hand on hers towards the exit- on the way I said lets go to the observatory. She said ok. instead of leaving for lunch we went there. We sat down. I was looking around for a bit. I made jokes, teased her, sat her down. I told her to sit on my lap but she said no its not going to be like that today. I had my arm around her and we kissed. we probably kissed 50 times. I wasnt great at it but I laughed it off and let her know I hadnt done this in a while.

    I told her about myself and she told me some things. I notice throughout this she did not really ask me much about myself. I dont know if she made her mind she wasnt interested and wanted to just talk this out and leave. I had my hands all over her, i played with her hair, felt her breasts, felt her legs. I had my hands up her skirt, I had held her neck tightly. I pulled her hair. I was feeling her paanties too and the entire time they were soaking wet. After an hour they were even wetter. We were kissing the whole time.

    We spent a total of 2 hours together- 12-2. I had kissed her at least 50 times by now and had felt her up repeatedly. We talked about a lot of stuff and I made her laugh. I did a lot of higher value, qualification (i dont think we can be friends, oh man i might as well leave now - i actually got up to leave several times. other times i would pull away- another time i told her no more kisses you have to earn them. she said i would definitely kiss her again and i did later. but not before I told her never again and that she needed to earn it. there were times she would look at me longingly and i wouldnt kiss her and give her an evil smile.

    At one point she asked me if I was going to be available any nights. I told her no. i explained i was with my friends i wouldnt be available. we talked alot about her growing up and me as well. I told her i liked her, that i wanted her, that i was horny for her. we joked about all these things. I asked her if she wanted to see me again. she looked down and said yea. I said i want to hear you say you want to see me again. she looked at me and said you want me to say i want to see you again? I said yes. she looked at me and said it. We made out and continued talking and teasing her. I recall feeling her up after these things and she was even wetter. at one point i straddled her and made out with her and she said no we cant do that today. we talked more.

    After a while, when she said it was time to go we got to her car. we wasted time talking about her car- a nice bmw and we kissed again- i saw her make a bee line for me so i thought it was good.

    I asked when i could see her again and instead of saying we can meet so and so time she waffled and said i dont know im not sure which days im free it changes because of when the father gets the kid. I dont know if this was her way of being evasive or honest.

    There were moments throughout this from start to finish that made me feel she was not interested in me. I still pushed through as if nothing happened. I would say these feelings lasted for 5 minutes at most.

    She told me she never kisses on the first date (which i thought was bullshit since we were going to sleep together in previous conversations).

    before we left i told her to let me know when she is available.

    When I left, several hours later I texted her that i enjoyed her company and that i wanted to see her again. Normally she responds within several hours. She did not at all. I know she has to pick up her kid at 5 so I figured she's busy but its 6 now.

    I'm assuming that she was not feeling it with me and that her making out with me and letting me feel her up was some sort of consolation prize for all the trouble we went through- all our texts till now have been sexual- ie cum on her face, her sending me naked pics of herself etc. she offered to come see me on sunday night the previous week and i had to decline.

    I am wondering if maybe she decided on the spot she was not into me and that this was not for her but wanted to be nice?

    I've noticed that girls do this a lot.

    Also about the lunch thing- she had brought up going to lunch earlier but when i asked to go to the observatory we went there instead.
    she said she was hungry and had skipped lunch earlier- and later while we were already kissing i said your hungry we should go eat. she said food can wait. since we had decided if things went well we would eat does this mean it was her way of saying not interested? Or was she trying to spend more physical close time with me to just make out.

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    Default Re: Met HB9 on a date. Can you evaluate and tell me how it went?

    i had texte dher that i had a good time. she said thanks I had a good time as well. Have fun tonight. I told her i wanted to see her again and left it at that.

    I really dont think she's interested in me. Oh well.

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    Default Re: Met HB9 on a date. Can you evaluate and tell me how it went?

    Keep playing the field. Dont be worried about her response. Keep leading and seeing how things go. If shes not interested you'll know
    Every moment counts, get out of your head and enjoy it.

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    Default Re: Met HB9 on a date. Can you evaluate and tell me how it went?

    yeah i dont think she is.

    but i told her i wanted her to let me know up front if she was interested in me ornot. she didnt respond.

    I am surprised- this girl must have been very open sexually to do the thing she let me do and still not be interested. I guess women are just like that.

    In any case. the trick is to not take it personally.

    But for learning- did I do anything wrong? was it my lack of ultra alpha attitude? was it her own familiy issues?

    who knows. Perhaps its a blessing in disguise


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