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    Default 17 ?s - from 3 months in the game

    After a couple months going out, here are all my questions. Many are yes/no. Thanks for any feedback.


    1. Noticeable Boner

    Tips?


    2. What to do with girl in Club
    In line for the club the other day. HB7 was all over me. Time to enter the club. That's when I messed up. I pushed her away. And I walked home. Because I knew I couldn’t show her (or myself) a good time there. Reason: I don’t drink ($). Can’t dance.

    Any tips on how to have fun in a club?

    3. Opening Guys

    Any preffered openers for making friends when going to a bar/nightclub alone? My default: “I’m out meeting people.” Problem, it’s a DLV.


    4. Answering Girl’s questions

    I always give joke answers

    e.g. Where do you work?
    “I’m an astronaut.”

    I think this creates intrigue. If she responds well, I’ll reward her later with the real answer. Good?


    5. Saying Hello

    When I open should I be looking the girl in the eyes giving her lots of attention. Or should I be non-imposing, by perhaps not even looking at her when I say hello?


    6. See You soon

    The other night HB7 was all over me. I had to go for a bit. Considered two ways of saying “see you later.”

    1) earnestly: e.g. This was fun talking to you. I want to hang out with you later.
    2) Disinterestedly: reason –my value is so high you don’t mean much to men?

    Opted for #2. Saw in her eyes she thought I was a choad for not making a move.

    Is #1 better?


    7. Cockblock

    How much escalation should I do with a friend there?
    How do I separate a girl from her friend for the makeout/pull?


    8. Pulling too early

    That HB7 from the line to the seemed DTF.

    Should I have just said “lets get out of here” before even entering the club?


    9. Personal Bar

    What’s the best alcohol to have at your place for her?


    10. Kino
    When GIRL touches ME, how should I respond? Should I touch her back? Should I push her away?

    What if girl catches me EXECUTING kino (mechanically as opposed to naturally?

    Any kino advice for the absolute tips for the absolute incompetent?


    11. Your wing is a creep

    PUA’s teach us to tell girls good things about our friends. But if your wing is acting super creepy, and the girls is bothered, should you still defend him?


    12. Walking

    Went to a bootcamp where we were told “always STOP the girl.” Agreed?


    13. My Favorite Tease

    “You seem too innocent to be in a club like this.”
    I also like, “I’m judging you.”
    Good?


    14. Opener
    This is a cliché, but any really good defaults?


    15. Letting Girl Know I Like Her

    To what extent should I do this?

    16. Dance
    Have taken lessons. Watched a million hours of instruction on youtube. But still can’t dance. Any tips
    ?

    17. Topics to avoid

    I try to avoid work, religion, where her accent is from? Any others?

    18. No out


    I always get nervous about gaming a girl, say, in line for a club. Because what's she going to do? Get out of line? She can't reject me? Also, if she's harsh, everyone in line will see 15 min. of this girls rejecting me? Any thoughts on such scenarios?

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    Default Re: 17 ?s - from 3 months in the game

    Quote Originally Posted by bulls23 View Post
    After a couple months going out, here are all my questions. Many are yes/no. Thanks for any feedback.


    1. Noticeable Boner

    Tips?
    Compression shorts?


    2. What to do with girl in Club
    In line for the club the other day. HB7 was all over me. Time to enter the club. That's when I messed up. I pushed her away. And I walked home. Because I knew I couldn’t show her (or myself) a good time there. Reason: I don’t drink ($). Can’t dance.

    Any tips on how to have fun in a club?
    Loosen up, have fun, wander around and talk to literally everyone. Act like you own the place. Give love to the room.

    3. Opening Guys

    Any preffered openers for making friends when going to a bar/nightclub alone? My default: “I’m out meeting people.” Problem, it’s a DLV.
    Why is that a DLV? Masculinize it. "I'm out to meet my next slam piece, you like pussy don't ya?"

    One of my favorites.

    "I'm here for one reason and one reason only. To engage in the finest sexual relations with the hottest females I can find. What are you here for?" Then challenge them to game with you.


    4. Answering Girl’s questions

    I always give joke answers

    e.g. Where do you work?
    “I’m an astronaut.”

    I think this creates intrigue. If she responds well, I’ll reward her later with the real answer. Good?
    This is good. I usually answer:

    "I'm a gigolo... but don't worry, friendship is free. At least for the first 15 minutes, after that, mama gotta pay!" I use this as a set up for a free drink from the girl. As payment for services rendered in the future.


    5. Saying Hello

    When I open should I be looking the girl in the eyes giving her lots of attention. Or should I be non-imposing, by perhaps not even looking at her when I say hello?
    The best approaches are done from a ways off at a safe distance where you can lock eyes on her specifically and hold her gaze from outer social distance(10 feet) right up until the moment you are standing in front of her. Whenever you are talking to her, during the times that you are talking, you want to spend 80% of your time looking into her eyes. When she talks, look away and stare off into the distance or take up another activity occasionally. Look into her eyes about 50% of the time she is speaking.


    6. See You soon

    The other night HB7 was all over me. I had to go for a bit. Considered two ways of saying “see you later.”

    1) earnestly: e.g. This was fun talking to you. I want to hang out with you later.
    2) Disinterestedly: reason –my value is so high you don’t mean much to men?

    Opted for #2. Saw in her eyes she thought I was a choad for not making a move.

    Is #1 better?
    Anything is better than not making a move. Direct game works best when you have obvious IOI's. You were a chode for not making a move.


    7. Cockblock

    How much escalation should I do with a friend there?
    How do I separate a girl from her friend for the makeout/pull?
    I escalate on my target right in front of the friends, while keeping the entire group occupied. Nothing intimate, but a lot of kino can be done quite socially and non-threateningly. If you engage the entire group in a fun and light hearted conversation, while occasionally making obvious to your target your interest, if she likes you she will tell her friends to back down a little. She may not go home with you, but she'll at least dissuade the more petty attempts at cock blocking.


    8. Pulling too early

    That HB7 from the line to the seemed DTF.

    Should I have just said “lets get out of here” before even entering the club?
    If possible? Hell yeah! Screw clubs.


    9. Personal Bar

    What’s the best alcohol to have at your place for her?
    Umm.. not sure. I just keep some 120 proof moonshine from my uncle around and mix it with fruit juice or lemonade for them.


    10. Kino
    When GIRL touches ME, how should I respond? Should I touch her back? Should I push her away?

    What if girl catches me EXECUTING kino (mechanically as opposed to naturally?

    Any kino advice for the absolute tips for the absolute incompetent?
    Follow the link:

    The importance of Kino Escalation cannot be understated


    11. Your wing is a creep

    PUA’s teach us to tell girls good things about our friends. But if your wing is acting super creepy, and the girls is bothered, should you still defend him?
    Get rid of the wing. Until you have developed basic skills a wing will just get in your way or distract you. Wings are for more advanced game like splitting groups, etc. A wing who is a creep is the last thing you need.


    12. Walking

    Went to a bootcamp where we were told “always STOP the girl.” Agreed?
    In what context? On a street corner? Sure.. not sure how that applies elsewhere very much except maybe a group of girls moving from one side of the venue to another.

    13. My Favorite Tease

    “You seem too innocent to be in a club like this.”
    I also like, “I’m judging you.”
    Good?
    *shrug* It's all in the delivery.


    14. Opener
    This is a cliché, but any really good defaults?
    I just introduce myself. Occasionally I will preface it with a joke.
    "Hey guys, I just came up with an awesome new pickup line and I really want to try it out on you."

    When they groan or whatever and grunt "sure".

    Simply put on your best slick smile, hold out your hand and say "Hi.. my name is.. it's nice to meet you."

    It works..


    15. Letting Girl Know I Like Her

    To what extent should I do this?
    It is perfectly acceptable to verbalize physical attraction, especially when paired with a sincere compliment. ("Mmm.. I love the way you smell, your skin feels, etc)

    It is not acceptable to verbalize romantic emotions or notions at any time..

    16. Dance
    Have taken lessons. Watched a million hours of instruction on youtube. But still can’t dance. Any tips
    ?
    Keep doing it.

    17. Topics to avoid

    I try to avoid work, religion, where her accent is from? Any others?

    18. No out
    Try to avoid talk about ex boyfriends, girlfriends, relationships that involve you directly. Everything should be 3rd person, another 3rd party imaginary couple, whatever. As far as you are concerned you are essentially always single. Anyone but you directly until you establish some comfort between you. Then you can begin to establish an "our world" routine which basically shuts out reality, brings her into yours and allows you to establish a concept of an "us".

    I always get nervous about gaming a girl, say, in line for a club. Because what's she going to do? Get out of line? She can't reject me? Also, if she's harsh, everyone in line will see 15 min. of this girls rejecting me? Any thoughts on such scenarios?
    Ya know how women say they know within 30 seconds whether they find a man attractive or not?

    It is your job as the male to know within that 30 seconds whether she finds you attractive or not. If she's not, ignore her. Don't worry about "harsh" just be friendly and light hearted.

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    Default Re: 17 ?s - from 3 months in the game

    Wow. I have no words. Didn't expect any one to answer every ?. Some really terrific advice.

    Just joined a group that goes out each weekend so I'm improving fast. Can't wait for next sat.

    Just one more ?. Would you mind elaborating no the type of kino you'd do with a friend there? Thanks


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