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    Default How do I reduce flakes?

    Hey everyone

    I was wondering if there is a certain rule of thumb for text game(a level of closeness) before a girl will be more likely to agree on a meet up and flake less? Is there a certain time frame also? Should I be building mainly attraction through text?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Default Re: How do I reduce flakes?

    If you are good at conversation, lead an interesting life and have reasonably good looks the girl should even be hinting to meet up anyway herself without you doing anything. If she engages with you in texts she should engage with you in real life. You know, if she is laughing at what you say or complimenting you in some way its usually a good sign.

    You can start to seed things into a conversation about meeting up to gauge her interest...it could be something playful like 'Oh yeah I saw your recent travel pics...you look like a fun person to travel with...let's elope to thailand this afternoon '. You get a playful/fantasy opportunity to judge her response and it could even lead straight into a date, her: 'Thailand? What now? haha I wish!', You: 'Well tell you what, let's go check out that Thai restaurant in town instead tonight'.

    The other thing you can do is position yourself as being busy and use time constraints: 'Hey I'm really flat out this week but let's meet up for a quick drink thursday'. A lot of guys ask girls out as if they have a blank schedule and are available at the drop of a hat or plan too much on a date for a girl. Make it really easy for her and pre-postion yourself as being the busy one.

    You need to ensure you are desirable and the girl has definate reasons and excitement to meet up with you (because you have demonstrated your utter confidence, sense of fun and complete charm to her already).

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    Default Re: How do I reduce flakes?

    You reduce flaking by raising sexual tension. Simple.

    What's not so simple is getting there. You have to build attraction, qualify her, then work on comfort. You can start building some real sexual tension once you're in comfort, but it has to be naturally growing so that's why you do a little at the beginning then gradually increase until you reach comfort and can raise it more.
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Default Re: How do I reduce flakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by wildstorms View Post
    Hey everyone

    I was wondering if there is a certain rule of thumb for text game(a level of closeness) before a girl will be more likely to agree on a meet up and flake less? Is there a certain time frame also? Should I be building mainly attraction through text?

    Thanks in advance.
    Yes but I only have time for a quick reply. Basically when it comes to the world we live in, we live in an ever changing world.

    Slowly I have gotten better at the texting/phone game. A few things that helped me.

    Last year 30 phone numbers=1 Date
    This year 12 phone numbers=6 Dates

    The difference is I didn't realize the effectiveness of getting validation by dating. So I throw in my "hook" right into my intro sometimes. "Hey this is Cap Jack Sarge, I met you here let's hang out sometime or do XYZ." That single text has carried me to today 1 month later and me and her are still dating. I have to go out less because my conversion rate has gotten way better.

    She is pretty much my GF so I really don't need to go out at all and waste money looking for girls unless it is purely for myself. But it used to be that I never figured out why I got ignored until I started running this formula of Dating + Hookup methods.


    Lastly we live in an ever changing world so I am slowly moving away from calling a girl unless she doesn't respond to my text a couple times then I will try calling her just to confirm it is a valid number. Other than that I have yet to call my current GF and treating it as a last resort since we talk on FB and through text. It takes out a lot of the nerves of calling a girl for sure and been able to secure dates without even calling her but she called me.
    When you let go of your feelings you can really then embrace your surroundings
    Love is a game that's why I don't worry about it anymore. When you let go of your feelings you find your meaning.
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    Default Re: How do I reduce flakes?

    Also as far as reducing flakes my current strategy is to not be needy. What I mean is I use to over-pursue and this really turned girls off. My trend was....

    Meet said chick and text next day, and next day, and next day and many times unanswered. I would go weeks, months with no responses. Now I just send one or 2 texts and then hurry up and wait. After that I may call a girl if she doesn't answer my texts to confirm I got the right phone number.

    Besides all that I stopped over pursuing by really only trying to use the phone for setting dates, meeting up, etc. By doing this it creates higher value. I put my GF on hold for a month and only sent about 2 unanswered texts in an entire month. During this time it was really hard but when I was finally ready to release the hold she hit me up first. She knew we had something planned but took the initiative. Now I still don't text her everyday cuz I feel this would be really needy.

    Plus think about it...
    If you texted her everyday or every other day either in high frequency she will never have time to hit you up and you will always be chasing her lowering your value. After I met the 18yr old she texted me for 2 months strait and I realized how annoying it was. It was cute for a while but got old very fast. So I treat others how I want to be treated. I don't hit them up everyday because in my theory "If I don't say anything nothing bad happens" is a good theory to live by. By texting less I tend to get more plus when my texting is about seeing each other. I leave the ball in their court and it is working so well my GF was hitting me up in the middle of the night which felt awesome. If I was texting her for a month strait while "she was on hold" guaranteed I would have been rejected because I would have said something that looked needy plus sending another and another unanswered text lowers your value. So be aloof and try to only use the phone for meeting up. Be spontaneous but once you guys are in comfort not before you start dating can you really be talking a lot since then you are just setting yourself up for the friendzone.
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    Default Re: How do I reduce flakes?

    Thanks for the replies all. You've made me realize that its just the structure of my context that I need to work on. One thing though, what are some really good ways to lock a girl in thru text. Should I be texting her less or texting her more, I don't want to be a text buddy, texting a lot never seemed to help. Is less better? Also once I've met a new target do I need to F- Close them within a certain period of time?

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    Default Re: How do I reduce flakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by wildstorms View Post
    Thanks for the replies all. You've made me realize that its just the structure of my context that I need to work on. One thing though, what are some really good ways to lock a girl in thru text. Should I be texting her less or texting her more, I don't want to be a text buddy, texting a lot never seemed to help. Is less better? Also once I've met a new target do I need to F- Close them within a certain period of time?
    Once you initially meet a woman, the clock starts ticking. There's a certain amount of time before that door closes. It's been said many times on here..."Strike while the iron is hot".

    You want your intentions to be known as soon as possible. Flirt, tease, sexually escalate then pull back. Always test the boundaries but it's important to slowly increase those boundaries.

    Always appear unpredictable while texting. Change response times, ignore texts, etc. Less is more, text with a purpose. Forcing it will give off the wrong vibe and scare her away.


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