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Thread: Direct Daygame?

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    Default Direct Daygame?

    Hi everyone, it just looked like a warm and friendly community, also full of people who knows what they're doing. So I came with an important question.

    I had read "Attraction Code" two years ago. This year, I stopped analysing
    people meeting, kissing out there. I decided to take action,

    I've been stopping girls and saying basicly "hey, wait a minute. You look cute, ı wanted to meet you". Most of the time I get rejected etc. I'm
    still dealing with rejections. But I know it's not about me, it can be the humidity, her family, her boyfriend or anything. So I just move to my next target. I have got a few numbers so far.

    But... I just started reading "The Game" by Neil Strauss. Looks like it says don't go direct, play the game. I have no idea what to do now. Should I stop going direct and learn the game? I'm a newbie, I can go in both
    ways and both look awesome.

    Please help me do what's best. Mystery says "An amateur hits on a woman right away," in the book by the way..

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    Default Re: Direct Daygame?

    Hey bro, for daygame most people would say that being direct is best. I tried both for daygame and I agree, you are being honest to yourself and her. Indirect is easier to open but then you have to transition to telling her you are attracted to her.

    My suggestion to you is try both and see what works best for you, especially situational openers.


    As to "The Game" and Mystery, it is for nightgame; clubs, bars and lounges and its indirect, alot of it has to do with canned material, peacocking, high energy stuff. Also, many think Mystery methods are outdated.

    There are also things in common between day and nightgame, in both you must be confident, look for IOIs and maintain eye contact.

    I hope this helps.

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    Default Re: Direct Daygame?

    Dude. Amateurs hit on a woman right away when they are wasted. That doesn't work because they are drunk. If you really think about it, it takes the most amount of balls to be direct. I've read the game and I don't think Mystery has the confidence to be direct and have it work for him. Mystery is actually very self conscious and it shows through very clearly in the book.

    I read a book about direct game that had a very good reasoning for going direct. It basically stated that "Real men don't have time for games. They know what they want and say it without being ashamed of their desires. You can get women being indirect but it takes too much time. You will get more women being direct and everything happens allot faster." Basically you don't waste time and as a true man you don't have time to waste so you state your intentions from the get go. Women very rarely, if ever, get "hit on" by a very confident man in a direct manner. If done properly you can sweep a girl off her feet. I've done it.

    I must say that I haven't had success with direct game at bars/shows/clubs. I think it's not as effective there because guys will do it when they are drunk. However I've heard of guys being successful with direct game at these venues.

    Mystery method is not outdated although some of his canned material is. The principles still work. I got a good laugh from the game when I read it a year ago because I found out that some of the "lines" Mystery uses are things I said to women myself way before I ever got into PUA.

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    Default Re: Direct Daygame?

    Do you want to be a magician and magic trick the shit out of her till she decides to leave with you? Or do you want to look her dead straight in the eyes Steve McQueen style and tell that you find her very sexy and that you'd like to take her home?

    I feel like the Mystery Method requires more work. Hence, indirect. One of the arguments in The Game and in Mystery's book is that women tend to hang out in groups when they go out. So one of the first steps is to get comfortable with the whole group first before going after your target. Almost like getting the 'ok' from her friends right there and then. Which in my opinion, I hate. If you like a girl then I believe that's the only person you need an 'ok' from. I don't want to waist time impressing her friends. I get that we live in a society where for some girl it's like that. That they need the whole group to like the guy before she can like him.

    But I also get that there are women who aren't like that. And those are the ones I'm looking for. Smart, independent, and mature and brave enough to not be held back by society, their family or their friends. And that's what's best for me. Not because of some computer nerd who goes out at night with weird clothes told me so in a book. But because I chose to.

    You have to choose what's best for you. You can follow some advice from different styles and sources but in the end you have to apply them to you, to who you are.

    Because in the end, it's not about being a pimp and getting laid the most.... Ok maybe it is a little bit about that. In all seriousness though, it's mostly about finding who you are and becoming that person. And hopefully finding that other person to share your life with. I'm starting to sound preachy! Shoot me!
    This PUA lifestyle has to be about purity to thy own self. Otherwise, what's the effing point? To just sleep with every women you meet? If that's what makes you happy then by all means, go forth and spread your seed. But remember, it's a LONG life and your conscious is the biggest bitch you'll never get rid off..... Unless you get alzheimer.

    I didn't answer your question lol
    Sorry. The two guys above me did though, so listen to them. It's good advice.

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    Default Re: Direct Daygame?

    Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate it
    Actually, when I dont have super high energy, when the girl is really hot or when feel nervous, I go automatically indirect. I don't give her any compliments etc. but it works! She tries to impress me, I bring to converstation from general to personal. look for IOI's etc. I actually
    don't know how to perform that completely.

    But when I go direct, I guess my routine is something like :
    "hey, I had to stop you because, i find you very attractive.
    "what's your name? hi I'm Pua nice to meet you"
    "so where you going? aaa.. meet your friends?.."
    "do you live nearby?"
    "what about school, do you study?"
    "nice, well I got one serious question, are you ready?"
    "ok. hold on, are .. you .. single right now"

    I can't say I have success with direct. Because I didn't field test it enough, in Istanbul almost no body does Pick Up, believe me. Direct may work. But in indirect, i feel relaxed, she feels relaxed. We play a game and whoever wins, I win. Someone said "You can start with direct ofcourse, but you need to improve your inner game" how can I do that?

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    Default Re: Direct Daygame?

    If you feel more comfortable being indirect then do that. You will get the best results from whatever style YOU are most comfortable with and most confidence with.

    That being said you can always start indirect then go direct after a period of time in the conversation. This can work extremely well!. Basically, once you steer the conversation in a personal direction, you complement her on personal things that she tells you.

    Example:
    Her: I just moved to L.A. on a whim because I really like it here. I didn't know anybody or have a job but I made it work.

    This is HUGE! This is an important thing she did and tells you allot about her. I really like it when women leave their comfort zone and do something ballsy like this so I would tell her so.

    Me: That's amazing! That took allot of courage and self confidence. I bet you felt really scared but you went ahead and did it anyways. I really like that about you. I look for those traits in a woman and you have those traits. I find that very attractive.

    You tell her what you think and you tell her that you look for those traits in a woman (that you are selective). You also tell her you think she is attractive and that you're interested in her based on traits she possesses. If done correctly she should get a very attracted look on her face. What they describe in "The Game" as the doggy bowl look.

    I would advise that you go this route since you are not comfortable being direct right away. This will feel allot more natural to you. You must actually compliment her on something personal that YOU really like for it too feel genuine. After your confidence and inner game grow to the point that you KNOW you are the shit and any girl would be extremely lucky to be with you will you be successful being direct from the get go. Baby steps my friend!

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    Default Re: Direct Daygame?

    DırectIsBest, this is the answer i've been looking for. Dude, you're amazing, questions in my head just faded away! Thanks a lot bro..

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    Default Re: Direct Daygame?

    Hey mate,

    Direct game has a very low success rate. It may take a month or so for you to get a proper number! I know some guys claim they get laid several women a week with doing day game but either they lie or they have some attributes that only few men have.

    I 99% of times do direct day game and what I have learned is that you must do it almost every day. It won't work well if you do it on and off. You must make an effort, go out every day and approach women until your anxiety gets minimum and your conversation skill becomes the best.

    From what you posted as an example conversation I can tell that you ask too many questions. That is boring and it comes across as being desperate. You better improve your cold reading and make guesses about her and make statements rather than asking questions. For example you can see the massive difference between the below two conversations:

    Convo A:

    You: What is your back ground?
    HB: Greek (yawn!!)

    Convo B:

    You: You are Greek aren't you?
    HB: Yes I am. How do you know?
    You: I am clever (wink!)

    Do you see how better you would make a connection with cold reading?

    Cheers


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