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    joneiljack68 is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default 3 quick questions about eye contact, amog and some weird reaction

    1. Is it good to keep eye contact and for how long? I heard of the 70/30 rule. But most guys have told me in the past they are frightened by my eye contact. So because of that I stopped keeping much eye contact. Now, after doing research, it's apparently really important to do it. But I guess I have to smile and be warm, and not intimidating. So even if you smile and are warm and comfortable, can eye contact still be considered creepy?

    2. I've been noticing this quite a few time lately: When I talk to a girl, her eyes get red, as if crying, mostly around the edges, where the eyelashes are. What the hell does this even mean? They seem to be into me and laugh at the stuff I say, but what the hell is up with the eyes.

    3. What should you do when you are with a girl and OTHER guys cat-call her. i.e. Walking down the street with her, and group of losers pass by and after they pass they say stuff like "DAAAYUM BABY, YOU'RE FINE".
    They might say it even from a car.
    You don't have time to react. I guess you can say "Thanks" as if they were saying it to you but sometimes they can be rude to you as well. Do you start fights? probably not, but you have to do something so you don't seem like a whimp.
    I thought about it and I could come up with two strategies: If you can turn it around and make humour out of it, then do it. If not, if it's rude/etc. or they are rude to you or want to start fights, ignore and remain unaffected and stack foward. Any other suggestions?

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    Default Re: 3 quick questions about eye contact, amog and some weird reaction

    Quote Originally Posted by joneiljack68 View Post
    1. Is it good to keep eye contact and for how long? I heard of the 70/30 rule. But most guys have told me in the past they are frightened by my eye contact. So because of that I stopped keeping much eye contact. Now, after doing research, it's apparently really important to do it. But I guess I have to smile and be warm, and not intimidating. So even if you smile and are warm and comfortable, can eye contact still be considered creepy?
    The idea is to let her know you are paying attention to her, but not too much attention. When you look in her eyes, soften your expression and use your face to match her emotional state at the time. But occasionally act bored after about 30 seconds into one of their long drawn out emotional experience stories. Occasionally I look at my phone, or even other women to break EC. I'm not real good at looking women in the eyes either man, at least ones I have real crushes on. Lol

    2. I've been noticing this quite a few time lately: When I talk to a girl, her eyes get red, as if crying, mostly around the edges, where the eyelashes are. What the hell does this even mean? They seem to be into me and laugh at the stuff I say, but what the hell is up with the eyes.
    Lol never noticed that detail before. I usually look for pupil size to spot attraction. But most of the time more overt IOI's clue me in. If I have to judge her attraction by minute eye details... thats just over thinking it IMO.

    3. What should you do when you are with a girl and OTHER guys cat-call her. i.e. Walking down the street with her, and group of losers pass by and after they pass they say stuff like "DAAAYUM BABY, YOU'RE FINE".
    They might say it even from a car.
    You don't have time to react. I guess you can say "Thanks" as if they were saying it to you but sometimes they can be rude to you as well. Do you start fights? probably not, but you have to do something so you don't seem like a whimp.
    I thought about it and I could come up with two strategies: If you can turn it around and make humour out of it, then do it. If not, if it's rude/etc. or they are rude to you or want to start fights, ignore and remain unaffected and stack foward. Any other suggestions?
    A buddy of mine used to say this all the time, and it works great as a frame change and transition for girls you even aren't with.

    "HEY! Don't hate cause that's my hand on that ass and not yours!"

    Maybe throw in an "Asshole!" For good measure. It's not lame, it's not white knighting. It's staking a claim. If she's attracted to you, it will turn her on.

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    Default Re: 3 quick questions about eye contact, amog and some weird reaction

    Quote Originally Posted by SiliconMagician
    Lol never noticed that detail before. I usually look for pupil size to spot attraction. But most of the time more overt IOI's clue me in. If I have to judge her attraction by minute eye details... thats just over thinking it IMO.
    I'm not asking if it's an IOI or saying that I want to judge her attraction by this. I'm asking if it means something that I might not get. Because it seems like they are sad about something deep inside when that happens, or maybe I'm making them uncomfortable or intimidating. I was just asking what that might mean in terms of body language ques.

    Also, pupil size is controlled by involuntary muscle reflexes in the eye due to light. You can't just make your pupils bigger when you see a 10 for example, if I'm shining light in your eyes. It's just a physiological thing.

    Thanks for the reply btw!

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    Default Re: 3 quick questions about eye contact, amog and some weird reaction

    Pupils also dilate with arousal, mate. In fact, it's also a universal turn on - people in general are more attracted to people who have dilated pupils. The reason being: people are naturally more attracted to people who think they're attractive. That's why ladies in Spain used to use small quantities of Belladonna to artificially dilate their pupils... it's both an IOI and a turn on.
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