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    Default Re: IOIs VS Friendliness: What's the Difference?

    If she's looking at her cellphone when she's with you, it means "hello, we're friends".
    I guess you took too long, or you kinda showed some indecision.

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    Default Re: IOIs VS Friendliness: What's the Difference?

    Thanks for the advice Lenric.

    She wouldn't use her phone during our two dates, usually just in interim during classes or when me and my friend were hanging out with her.
    "Fidelio"

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    Default Re: IOIs VS Friendliness: What's the Difference?

    You lost it my friend. You were doing SOOO good and you lost it. This is why: you didn't believe in yourself. You were worried that you were doing something wrong when you were not doing ANYTHING wrong. This made you subconsciously sabotage yourself.

    Next time you're doing well with a woman keep your thoughts positive and KNOW you can get her. You won't make the same mistakes. You don't need to worry about doing the right or wrong thing because everything you do will be right.

    It happens to everyone man. Learn from it and grow.

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    Default Re: IOIs VS Friendliness: What's the Difference?

    Yeah, I kind've thought I might have been overthinking and over analyzing everything!
    I guess that's part of the PUA dance, the fine line between knowing the strategies and then implementing them thoughtlessly.
    I do think some of it was her too, being crazy / psycho and all.
    BUT, I'm still gonna use this as momentum to grow, and my first success at attempting something better.

    PS: there's still another few weeks left of class, so I'm still forced to bus there with her, attend the same class, then the bus ride back home every day . . . yeah - I know.
    "Fidelio"

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    Default Re: IOIs VS Friendliness: What's the Difference?

    That's a great opportunity for you to enhance your ability of starting not to give a fuck.
    Chat with her, befriend her. You know why? Because she has female friends. Hopefully, loads of them, which means you get a chance not only of knowing them, but also getting the chance of your friend "validating" you, I mean, social proof.

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    Default Re: IOIs VS Friendliness: What's the Difference?

    That's a great idea man!

    I'll definitely be working my hardest to not give a fuuuu, even though she still has me pretty twisted!
    And, unfortunately, she doesn't have very many girl friends - they are almost all guy friend's and their girlfriends.
    "Fidelio"

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    Default Re: IOIs VS Friendliness: What's the Difference?

    I've known girls like that. They have almost no girl friends and have mostly guy friends. There is a very high probability she is a playette and some of them are really good. She teases guys, flirts with guys, and make them think she is interested in them. She's got a bunch of guys thinking they got a shot with her called "orbiters" and probably uses them. Vin Di Carlo refers them as "Testers." Be wary of these kind of girls. Thus, the PUA cardinal rule of only stay as interested/invested as they are and create a abundance mindset. I wouldn't want these kind of girls anyways. From what you've described, this girl has the signs.

    The key to dealing with these kind of girls is you need to be the first to break rapport and set the frame immediately that you are a high valued man who chooses women. Not you chase them. The powerswitch is a skill.

    By the time she breaks rapport with you, it is too late. You cannot generate attraction by breaking rapport more.

    There's better fish out in the sea.

    Good luck.

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    Default Re: IOIs VS Friendliness: What's the Difference?

    I definitely agree with you on that I.M., damn hindsight!
    I actually started pretty strong with her in terms of DHV, as I would bring up other girls in our class and mirror her phone use.
    That's mainly what had me confused was the sudden switch in her attitude!
    But as was said before that can be attributed to her forwardness/craziness . . .
    I'm glad I could share my first experience though as newcomers on PUA can study this thread and learn from it too!

    PS: BEWARE OF THE TESTERS
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    Default Re: IOIs VS Friendliness: What's the Difference?

    Hey guys, just thought I'd add another update of how I've been playing the situation - at the expense of ANOTHER DOUBLE POST.

    So, I've basically been Mirroring her and gaming her as usual, like back when times where all good and promising.
    She still treats me like her boyfriend mixed with some normal friend-like vibes when she's being angry at me sometimes.
    I took all of your valuable advice here in keeping things cool and slowly emotionally-detaching myself from her in hopes of avoiding Oneitis.
    Today we were hanging out with my friend again after class and I ended up giving her a foot massage for like 40 minutes - during which she was rubbing me pretty sexually and teasing while I was massaging them.
    THEN, just as per her usual twists, she denied any advances I made to kiss her and escalate sexually.
    I suspected it could have been because we were in the presence of my friend - because when he would leave she would go back to teasing again.
    There is still almost always IOIs when we are together too, and she will go nuts when I ignore her/play it cool.

    Anyways, I'm still trying to avoid/break Oneitis, mixed with somehow still being in the Game with her and more confusion - which is pretty typical with her at this point.
    "Fidelio"

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    Default Re: IOIs VS Friendliness: What's the Difference?

    Those IOI's mean jack. Why?

    Because compliance is failing and you can't escalate beyond a certain point. So don't read any more into those.

    And most importantly, don't let yourself feel any validation from them. The girl is a tease/flirt/playette.

    You want to break your one-itis? Start working on a different girl and let her see you with her.

    I think every poster here will agree that the next time we see you post there better be a new girl in the picture


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