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    Hi,

    Here is the situation I go out often with a group of friend with around four girls. This gives me social proof but here is my problem. Most of the time in Nightclubs I open with opinion opener but since when I am with a group of friend is weird to ask other people opinion when you have a group of people with you who can give you their opinion. If either I receive an IOI or not by a girl in a 2 set or in a group, what kind of opener should I use if I can't use opinion opener. Any openers to suggest?

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    Default Re: Which opener to use

    Just flirt right out of the gate. The "Opener" doesn't even matter, because it's not what you SAY... it's how you ARE.

    Go up & tease them about drinking some "girly drink" like a cosmopolitan or something, and winlk / smile. You'll get a reaction. That's the goal.
    If they're NOT drinking cosmos or some other girly drink, they'll enjoy proving you wrong; thus getting them to interact with you. (Which is the next goal).

    Turn that into an opportunity to keep bantering with them. Have FUN with it. You'll get much better results when you make them have fun, than you will with a meaningless opinion question.

    Using an opinion opener requires you to somehow transition into a way to flirt. When you flirt right from the start, there IS NO need to transition. You just start building attraction.

    It's a shortcut to where you want to be.


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    Default Re: Which opener to use

    Quote Originally Posted by karl123 View Post
    Hi,

    Here is the situation I go out often with a group of friend with around four girls. This gives me social proof but here is my problem. Most of the time in Nightclubs I open with opinion opener but since when I am with a group of friend is weird to ask other people opinion when you have a group of people with you who can give you their opinion. If either I receive an IOI or not by a girl in a 2 set or in a group, what kind of opener should I use if I can't use opinion opener. Any openers to suggest?
    I game alone but were I in a group like that I would leave my group, approach and claim some intergroup dispute in which the girls arbitration is needed. Women love that sort of thing because arbitration of in group disputes is how women handle each other.


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