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    I've been dating this girl for about a month now who lives an hour away. She's VERY independent.lately she has not been satisfied with her life and she has been kinda bitchy lately. When I talk to her on the phone, she seems like she could care less that we're even talking. She doesn't laugh at anything, ask me questions or even initiate any type of convo. And I can hardly say anything with making her mad and it resulting in us arguing. We hang on Saturday and everything is fine when were together but She tells me she wants to spend her friday nights taking care of personal things like cleaning house, running errands and doing homework. And she doesn't want me coming to hang out with her because she will be distracted. She also said that even if it means she has to skip going out on a Friday to get her stuff done, then that's what she has to do. But she always ends up going out with her friends til 2am after she is done with everything. I asked her about it and she got PISSED at me. 1 of 2

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    2 of 2. I was not questioning her, just wondering why she can't invite me cuz I have no problem driving that far. Then we just keep arguing. Any advice on how to handle all of this would be great. I understand independent women need space but when you say you got no time for social stuff but you still go out, it kinda makes me mad.

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    Default Re: independent woman

    You don't need this. No woman has the right to treat you like crap. I think it's clear she is taking you for granted. One suggestion would be to freeze her out for a while, but I would wait for the real experts to weigh in.

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    I mean its only been going on for 2 weeks but 2,weeks too many for arguing. We make up afterwards and we still have a great time on Saturdays.I just want to know how to handle it

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    You're her puppy. "Oh, I don't mind driving for 1 hour just to be with you! Oh, forget it, there's no need for you to come and meet me in my city, I'll do it!!!"

    She doesn't want to be with you and she makes up some excuses, but to be with her friends no problemo. Shouldn't this shit tell you something?

    You don't represent a challenge anymore. Your dick for her is a paperweight. No sexual attraction and, since you became clingy, you're just a pain in the ass for her. You don't understand this, so you argue with her, which is a crap, because she'll never say "you're right mate! that's because I don't give a shit about you anymore, just deal with it". Why? Because she's a woman.

    Yeah, she may be a little nuts, but that doesn't erase the fact that you became clingy and a wuss. Her puppy. So why should she hang with a guy that doesn't add value to her?


    My tip is: stop it. Start not to give a fuck.

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    Default Re: independent woman

    I've been dating this girl for about a month now who lives an hour away. She's VERY independent.lately she has not been satisfied with her life and she has been kinda bitchy lately. When I talk to her on the phone, she seems like she could care less that we're even talking. She doesn't laugh at anything, ask me questions or even initiate any type of convo. And I can hardly say anything with making her mad and it resulting in us arguing. We hang on Saturday and everything is fine when were together but She tells me she wants to spend her friday nights taking care of personal things like cleaning house, running errands and doing homework. And she doesn't want me coming to hang out with her because she will be distracted. She also said that even if it means she has to skip going out on a Friday to get her stuff done, then that's what she has to do. But she always ends up going out with her friends til 2am after she is done with everything. I asked her about it and she got PISSED at me. 1 of 2

    listen bud, she isn't doing homework and cleaning on a Friday night.
    she's putting on makeup and fixing her hair so she can go out to the bar with her friends and find a real man. (one who doesn't cater to her)

    she doesn't want you there because she doesn't want you to know what she's really doing.


    I was not questioning her, just wondering why she can't invite me cuz I have no problem driving that far. Then we just keep arguing. Any advice on how to handle all of this would be great. I understand independent women need space but when you say you got no time for social stuff but you still go out, it kinda makes me mad.
    that's your problem. has she ever drove to come to your place? no of course not. you are going out of your way to date her, and she has lost interest because of it.

    seriously, I wouldn't date a girl who was an hours drive away. I have more self respect than that. her sex isn't worth my gas.

    and odds are she isn't even having sex with you despite everything you do to be with her. am I right?


    nobody has time for a girl like this. the best thing you can do is to have some self respect, ditch this chick and find one who will appreciate you.

    You're her puppy. "Oh, I don't mind driving for 1 hour just to be with you! Oh, forget it, there's no need for you to come and meet me in my city, I'll do it!!!"

    She doesn't want to be with you and she makes up some excuses, but to be with her friends no problemo. Shouldn't this shit tell you something?

    You don't represent a challenge anymore. Your d1ck for her is a paperweight. No sexual attraction and, since you became clingy, you're just a pain in the ass for her. You don't understand this, so you argue with her, which is a crap, because she'll never say "you're right mate! that's because I don't give a shit about you anymore, just deal with it". Why? Because she's a woman.

    Yeah, she may be a little nuts, but that doesn't erase the fact that you became clingy and a wuss. Her puppy. So why should she hang with a guy that doesn't add value to her?
    lenric is spot on. you're worthless to this girl because she doesn't have to fight to be with you. you're no challenge anymore, and a challenge is what she wants.

    high value men never cater to a womans needs. that means you don't buy her sh!t or take her out to fancy dinners or give her rides to places you aren't going or even going out of your way to go see her.

    high value men only do whats convenient for them.


    think of it this way, never do anything for your girlfriend that you wouldn't do for a complete stranger.

    now, would you drive an hour to see a complete stranger? hell no.

    would you take a complete stranger out to an expensive dinner? hell no.

    would you give a complete stranger rides to places you weren't planning on going to? hell no.

    would you buy expensive gifts for a complete stranger? hell no.

    would you get into an argument over what a complete stranger was going to do on a Friday night? hell no.

    would you worry about what a complete stranger was doing when your not around? hell no.

    would you make time for someone who has no respect for you? hell no!!!


    having a little self respect will save you from massive amounts of heartbreak.

    let that sink in. maybe its a little selfish, but its whats best for you.

    you should always look out for your best interest.


    so I challenge you to ask yourself one simple question, is it really in your best interest to give this girl any of your precious time???


    peace out man

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    I might not have explained this situation to well. She don't treat me like shit but we have argued a few times, which we're arguing so we both say stuff to each other when we're pissed. And we don't go to fancy dinners all the time and when we do go to dinner, I'll pay cuz that's how I was brought up. And I've never bought her anything but dinner. And when we get drinks, she buys them almost every time. And as far as visiting, we've been together just over a month and she's been to my town twice to hangout. I go to her cuz she lives in a city and I live in a 3,000 person town with absolutely nothing to do so I'd rather go to her place. And she doesn't deny me sex at all. When I was layed off, I would go up 2-3 times a week and we would do it. Now I see her only on Saturday and we will do it sometimes twice a day. I'm not a guy that does everything she wants to do cuz I think it makes her happy, but I will admit one thing in that I need to work on taking charge more because I've always been a layed back, go with the flow type person and never cared what I get into.

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    When we go to dinner and stuff, I have to fight her to pay for it really cuz she told me that is what she has always had to do with her past men. And I feel like less of a man when a girl pays for my stuff. But she'll pay for other things for us and I don't mind it at all

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    Everytime I have a girlfriend, I split the bill with her (sometimes I pay the entire thing, sometimes she pays. I'm studying and I need the money to pay my fees, don't give a fark about ethics). Everytime I date, I pay what I bought. She pays what she bought. Plain simple.

    "Oh, that wasn't the way I was educated, I am a man, I'm not comfortable with girls paying me something!!!" Really? Are we in 1800? It's perfectly fine for her to pay you a dinner. She'll feel kind of a slut if you're always paying. Copy that amigo?

    About your town being small and whatever... my friend, I'll tell you a story. The existent boundaries can be extended through the use of our imagination. Do you think some girl, when she's hanging with you, only cares about the super rollercoaster that you're going to ride, which costs 2033843948 dollars? No. She cares about the emotions she'll feel. And I assure you that a 1 dollar date can be way better than a 38943984 dollars one.

    Just use your farking imagination, be creative, be out of the ordinary. Because every chump can go with a girl to a fancy restaurant, to the cinema, or whatever. But only a few are actually able to sweep her off her feet.


    Summary: you're just like every other guy for her. Worthless.

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    About my town, Yea I don't want to be there myself. I'd rather go to a city anyway. It ain't the fact that I'm trying to please her by going where she is. So for me, I would like to have a roller coaster once in awhile


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