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    Unhappy college game -- first date PERFECTION?

    Hey guys, I have a super specific problem that I need help with. Iím in college, and lately Iíve been landing a lot of first dates with cute girls, like 3-4 per week easily.

    The problem is that I canítÖcapitalize. After the first date Iím either friendzoned or they completely lose interest. Therefore, I'm trying to perfect my first date game and format.

    When I first got to college, I took girls to a coffee shop downtown and sat on opposite sides of the table, like a true AFC. No wonder I was f*cking up thenÖbut lately Iíve been tweaking and improving my first date format to where I think itís very good, and still seeing very weak results.

    I usually meet them in the daytime, around 3 or 4. My format now is that we go to a coffee shop on campus and get some delicious coffee/food. After that I say, ďhey, letís go on an adventureĒ, and we walk to a close-by ďarboretumĒ (itís like a peaceful garden with trees and whatnot). After getting there, I pick a bench with not too many people around it that looks very scenic. We sit on the bench, drink coffee and talk for about an hour, me being sure to keep conversation light and flirty. I even break the touch barrier and try to escalate kino.

    I think this is where I go wrong though: lately Iíve been reading a lot about active listening, so on first dates I encourage her to talk as much as possible (subliminally). I actively listen and make deep eye contact, and say non-judgemental things back to herÖbut I think Iím coming off as too much of a nice guy, because all I do is listen to her and agree with her. Should I share more about myself? Tell more jokes? Stories?

    I think itís the nice guy thing, the location/date format, or the time of the day I meet them. Should we meet up later on, like at 8pm instead?

    Please help guys, I have no problem getting numbers or first dates but need to improve my first date game. If my description isnít specific enough, just tell me and Iíll give you more details.

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    Default Re: college game -- first date PERFECTION?

    You should tease them and improve the amount of touching through escalation.

    Your dates are boring as hell. I yawned a couple of times actually. Walking in the park, sitting on a bench and talking about the importance of coke in our diets is boring as hell, where's the emotion? Where's the thrill?

    The first date should be always, always fun. No deep conversations, only teasing and loads of kino escalation, which you'll make you seduce her.

    Do something else, such as joking with them and dancing in the street, tickle her, whatever, but do something that makes her have a good time, something unpredictable.

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    Default Re: college game -- first date PERFECTION?

    Are you and your dates old enough to drink?
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    Default Re: college game -- first date PERFECTION?

    I'm still in college and I took all of my dates to bowling as a first date. Might sound cheesy but it's kinda turned into my thing.

    Bowling can be really competitive thus you get to do a lot of teasing and touching.

    I got to smack a few fine butts while teasing like: "You go girl!" without thinking all that kino process like: "Do I touch her arm first? Okay, easy now, juuuust a brush..."

    My kino process was only 2 steps, smack her ass, kiss her.

    Bragging aside, coffee dates are cute and all but as lenric said they're boring. My current gf and I are together for a year now and we've never been to a "coffee date".

    You can always "talk" and "get to know each other" while doing more active stuff. Actually, once you get her into that energetic state you don't ever need to worry about "subliminally" making her talk about herself. She'll just do it naturally because she enjoys everything about you and the date.
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    Default Re: college game -- first date PERFECTION?

    I'm going to disagree with the above posters. I think your date is fine. The problem I see is that you're agreeing with everything she says. If she says something you don't agree with tell her so!

    It's good that you make her do the talking because women love to talk about themselves. However; make sure you're still leading the conversation and interjecting things.

    Keep things light and playful but if you get into a serious conversation and she says something important make sure you ask her HOW that makes her FEEL. This will get emotions involved and that's how women communicate. Also, if she says something that you like, tell her that you think that trait about her is attractive and THAT'S what you look for in a woman. Make her feel special and she will be all yours!

    I do have a question. Are you trying to kiss her on the first date? If you aren't you should be. Always try and kiss on the first date and if she rejects you don't worry about it. Laugh it off and try again later. Cheers!


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