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Thread: I'm sick of working twice as hard as a natural to get the same results.

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    Default I'm sick of working twice as hard as a natural to get the same results.

    Ya know it really pisses me off sometimes that I have to work twice as hard as a natural to get the same results. I just don't get it sometimes. Tonight for instance, nothing went my way. I got stuck in a group of 4 women, two of.which were a lesbian couple.. and two other guys who were really good looking naturals. The 2 attractive single women were all eyes on these other guys and paid not a lick of attention to me all night.

    I hate these situations, because all my social skills never matter when compared to raw good looks when all else is equal.. and I don't mean some good looking guy with no game. I mean a good looking guy with game.. I always lose out. The women just always seem to cooperate more in the conversations with then than they do with me. Where as I have to have the perfect, carefully crafted and tested DHV tale, and tell it exactly right or lose the pickup.. a natural could talk about the weather and chicks dig it as deep knowledge even if just as a means to kiss up to him. It pisses me off bad.

    What pisses me off is I have to literally be a rock star, some larger than life figure, and have to work hard at maintaining that image in order to get beautiful women to have sex with me. When I see a lot of guys have to literally be completely stupid and fark shit up to not get laid.

    To me, getting laid feels like a lot of effort compared to naturals still. I just wish I knew what it was I was still missing..

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    Default Re: I'm sick of working twice as hard as a natural to get the same results.

    Bro tell me about it, I can relate with you all night.

    The one thing I think naturals have is that, they are not conscious of what they are doing when they are with women. They are extremely in tuned with their intuition and do it sub - consciously. They can just feel and sense what they need to do or say next, they don't think about it, like us.

    They just know, whereas if we haven't field tested something nor if its not crafted right we real screwed. That's just my 2 cents. It really bums me out too man, just pure bullshit, how they get lucky with 0 farking effort.

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    Default Re: I'm sick of working twice as hard as a natural to get the same results.

    Firstly bro i hear you and understand your frustration. Before I even heard about the PUA community I sex with over 100 girls. Does that make me a natural? I'd say NO. In fact i'd say in comparison to the wealth of knowledge i'v absorb through reading books, watching video's and participating on forums like this one, I didn't know anything before. You have the advantage over those guys because you have a understanding of the science involved with attraction and seduction. That being said your account for the night, You had maybe the highest level of awareness of anyone in the group. Those guys were participating blindly hoping for results. As far as the girls go. If you see that they are impressed with things that shouldn't impress them. That is a advantage you can use in your favor in the future. You need to be more charismatic, Don't be afraid of the so called natural. He's wielding a stick. Though he may be skilled with his stick. its only a stick bro. Learning social dynamics on a site like this would be the equivalent of a sniper rifle. Your armed and dangerous with a wealth knowledge. All you have to do it apply it. Then watch them fall. you may be lacking in looks, what does that have to do with your sense of humor? What does that have to do with you being a potential great lover? what does have to do with you dropping negs on everyone at the table? Good kino knows no face. Those guys should be pissed this morning not you. Buts its cool your back to the drawing board so you can get better and get the results that you want in the future. I respect you for that. Your resilience is what you call on next time your at that table in that situation. Stay in the fight and F-close. *keep me updated.*
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    Default Re: I'm sick of working twice as hard as a natural to get the same results.

    ABSO-FVk!nG-LUTELEY, DEVIANT METHOD!

    It's never about who's doing whatever. You can not read minds so you don't know what they think. Half the time, the good looking guys are way more insecure. Just dorm worry about how they "appear" ... Barriers in your own mind will sabotage you.

    I too have to work with girls and some girls take awhile to see results. But in the end, it's always more fullfilling for both of you ... Way better than just a one night lay.

    Women may go for looks but they will stick around for awesomeness. And if she is just after good looking guys you don't want her anyway. Trust me.
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    Default Re: I'm sick of working twice as hard as a natural to get the same results.

    Instead of complaining about it you should have been studying these guys body language to see what they were doing. There's SOO much about facial expressions alone that can turn a girl on. I use facial expressions all the time that women CANNOT get enough of.

    This is a part of the PUA world that's not talked about very much. I wasn't even aware (until recently) of what kind of facial expressions I used myself that made girls crazy. You can make a girl horny as hell by just looking at her. I do it all the time. Next time you're in a similar situation watch the naturals body language and how the girl responds to it. Don't pay attention to ANYTHING they say, that doesn't matter.

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    Default Re: I'm sick of working twice as hard as a natural to get the same results.

    Get over it.

    That's your problem.

    You complain.

    Stop complaining.

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    Default Re: I'm sick of working twice as hard as a natural to get the same results.

    Stop focusing on other guys and try to improve yourself.

    "Show me a road without obstacles and it's a road that leads to nowhere"

    What's your alternative? To stop improving and never pick up girls again?

    Sorry, if you came here for sympathy you won't get any from me. If you want to better yourself and learn to be better in all aspects of your life then I am here to support you fully my friend. Any thing you want is achievable it's all up to you.

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    Default Re: I'm sick of working twice as hard as a natural to get the same results.

    Also you never know what may have happened after their interaction. Like this, i have a friend who is naturally charismatic. Many women like him and will always give him attention more than me when we're together.... but the hardcore fact is this, he sucks when it comes to closing. They find him cute and all but he always finds a way to strike out. My point is this, it may seem that he's better than you but it's the results that end up mattering.
    You lose some you win some, learn from your mistakes and get better!

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    Default Re: I'm sick of working twice as hard as a natural to get the same results.

    Focus on having fun once in a while, heck, focus on having fun most of the time.

    It's a game after all.


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