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Thread: What is the PERFECT OPINION OPENER?

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    Cool What is the PERFECT OPINION OPENER?

    Hey guys, I've been eating my own brains about something.
    When I went into field last week, I kind of used Mystery Method and a little Natural Game. Maybe non of them. Anyway,

    I opened like "Excuse me ... I have to go, i'm in a hurry but.. Can I have your opinion about something?"

    I am not sure if this "can I have your opinion" question sounds needy or weak. That is why I'm asking for your help. What do you guys think?
    Should I replace it with something?

    And here is how it continues :
    Girls : Yeah / Sure / What?"
    Me : "Who is more jealous, girls or boys?"
    Girls : Bla bla..
    Me : Really? When jealous, who hides it better, girls or boys?
    Girls : Bla bla..
    Me : You think? ok. Well, I need to give an advice to my friend. They are about to break up if I don't help him. Let's empathize. Imagine, you have a boyfriend for three months ok? Now, you learn he has been talking
    to his ex girlfriend. What do you think?



    Like %80 of girls are caught into the topic at this point. Do you sense
    any neediness in the opener ? Thanks in advance.

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    Default Re: What is the PERFECT OPINION OPENER?

    Stop opening with "Excuse me". (THAT was actually your opener)

    Also- that opinion question is really played out & it's an awkward topic to get into with a stranger. I mean, guys really aren't that involved & concerned with their friends' relationships.

    Quit trying to have a fake conversation & just FLIRT with the girl!

    I say this all the time but for some reason, a lot of guys think I'm crazy or don't know anything.
    But FLIRTING will get you farther & faster than using a fake opinion question.


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    Default Re: What is the PERFECT OPINION OPENER?

    I am not sure if this "can I have your opinion" question sounds needy or weak. That is why I'm asking for your help. What do you guys think?
    this is how I would do the opinion opener so it doesn't sound so needy/weak/canned.

    me: "hey, I want to get your opinion on something."
    her: what?
    me: why are women so jealous of each other these days?
    her: blah blah blah

    notice three big differences between my approach and your approach

    1. I always open with a simple "hey" to get the girls attention (no need to say "excuse me")

    2. anywhere I can, I replace the phrase "can I" (witch is approval seeking) with the golden phrase "I want to" (witch is far more assertive and manly)

    3. instead of giving her two choices "who's more jealous boys or girls" where all she's going to answer with is one word, I used a far more open ended question "why are girls so jealous of each other?" witch will at least get you an "I don't know" reply and possibly more.

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    Default Re: What is the PERFECT OPINION OPENER?

    The perfect opener is one thats natural to what ever your situation is at the moment. I never did understand why some people would want to recite someone's lines. Its pretty cheesy and god help you if she's run into some before using the same line. I don't use anyone's lines because I don't like being corny or being embarrassed,which is what you will be if you get caught using lines. Learn the techniques not the lines. You insert any line you want once you know the technique. If you need a story to DHV it doesn't have to be mystery's DHV story bro. On this site you have a opportunity to learn game and perfect game. You should do that instead of asking people to give you a opener. Why don't learn about openers then come up with a few of your own? I'm always doing the reading. Bro because of this i came up with my own bastard style of pick up. The Deviant Method. feel free to look up my post you find technique, steps no cheesy lines bro. Good luck to you.
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    Default Re: What is the PERFECT OPINION OPENER?

    I really appreciate your help gentlemen. Nobody uses "hey" in my language so.. its kind of strange. There is no other words to replace with hey.
    Other than "pardon / excuse me / look / listen" If only there was.

    Direct Daygame sounded fascinating a year ago. I watched every single video
    on the internet, read lots of books etc. But did nothing. Like I went to a mall and walked around the mall for 2 hours approaching zero girls.

    I did my first approaches with Mystery Game and now you tell me to tosh it
    in the trash? I can tell you that nobody does "Pick Up". Nobody is aware of it in my country. Mystery Method can be effective, can't it? Come on, I'm confused again.

    How do you flirt with a girl you don't even know. Why would she want to?
    Even if she wants it, her friends are going to pull her away. She may feel
    like a slut. I don't know, mystery game makes a lot more sense. Or Natural game.

    When I see the girls I know for a long time, I tell DHV stories, flirt with them, NEG them and punish them with negative body language, hug them etc. It's being great experience these days. How do I flirt directly?

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    Default Re: What is the PERFECT OPINION OPENER?

    Definitely use what works for you. Make the approaches.
    But start being more flirty. (tease / banter with the girls)

    The point I try to make is this: The "opener" doesn't even matter...
    I've used "dog crap" to open a girl on the street...

    I told another girl in a convenience store that she was going to wet the bed.

    The real key is to stand out & be different from every other guy who is trying to hit on her the wrong way.


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    Default Re: What is the PERFECT OPINION OPENER?

    Thanks bro, I guess natural game fits here. Transition is important, not the opener.

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    Default Re: What is the PERFECT OPINION OPENER?

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Mal View Post

    I told another girl in a convenience store that she was going to wet the bed.

    The real key is to stand out & be different from every other guy who is trying to hit on her the wrong way.
    I remember that opener.

    Anything can be an opener as long as it is conveyed with confidence, and it is nothing really generic but more unique.


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