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Thread: Ugly guy tries getting girls. (RESULTS INSIDE)

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    Default Ugly guy tries getting girls. (RESULTS INSIDE)

    Ugly dude here listing my past 50 girls experience as an ugly dude. FYI, I am confirmed ugly, there is zero speculation as it's been repeatedly told to me over the years.

    The following are results from obeying all rules of the game. Well dressed, good sense of style, and sense of status (I'm a photographer so people are very open to me approaching them).

    Every encounter falls into 4 failure scenarios.

    Girls #1-13: I see a woman I find attractive at an event and approach her saying I'd like to photograph her in a fun pose. Very low pressure/fun, maintaining full eye contact. They all smile for the photo and immediately walk away as I'm trying to talk to them again. Most just look immediately at their phones after and never look at me again for the rest of the night. Slight/veiled look of disgust on their face but the lowest of all 4 scenarios.

    Girls #14-20: On the subway/public transport/open area and dressed my best. This is during the day time. I make eye contact with a woman only to have them immediately look away and never look back again. No acknowledgement, reciprocation, and a clearly visible look of disgust on their face. Decide to do a new approach and actually go by a woman instead, they look right at me and immediately shift their body away or move further up the platform.

    Girls #20-30: Same as above only difference is doing it at night. Drunk women will talk to me for a few moments only to go off to other men. Look of disgust is not as obvious here but still very much there. It is instead replaced with a look of pity.

    Girls #40-50: This is a general rejection upon first sight. Even when approaching with a light anecdote or observation to start a conversation, they simply respond coldly and refuse to talk further. Any responses henceforth are equally dismissive or non-existent. EXTREME anger and resentment towards me for approaching them, almost fury. Look of disgust is strongest in these situations above all others.

    Had these just been isolated incidents, one could chalk to up to chance. But this is a consistent pattern that repeats 100% of the time.


    TL,DR

    Yes, it is possible to be TOO ugly to get women, that isn't a myth.

    I'm living proof.

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    Default Re: Ugly guy tries getting girls. (RESULTS INSIDE)

    ah, in all of these scenarios you never got past small talk. not because you look hideous, but because of your body language.

    my best guess is that you put off a vibe that screamed "I'm here to stuff you in the back of my van"

    also, if you're an older guy (over 30) trying to approach 20 year old college girls its not going to go smoothly unless you're amazing at picking up girls. age difference, or even perceived age difference may be a stumbling block for you.

    in addition, you may want to dress down a bit. while wearing a suit is cool and all, it can be intimidating to average people. I've honestly had the best success just wearing skinny jeans and a nice tee shirt. wear whatever clothes you're most comfortable in.

    Girls #1-13: I see a woman I find attractive at an event and approach her saying I'd like to photograph her in a fun pose.
    I can tell you right away that this was a bad idea. doesn't matter what you look like, asking some random girl for her photograph is going to seem weird. I would recommend talking to them first and then asking to take the photo as an afterthought. (if you want the photo, but personally I would just get a selfy with them on my phone wich seems more natural than lugging around a camera with the sole goal of taking peoples photos)

    On the subway/public transport/open area and dressed my best. This is during the day time. I make eye contact with a woman only to have them immediately look away and never look back again.
    this will happen to any guy who makes eye contact without approaching. (unless he's famous)

    Same as above only difference is doing it at night. Drunk women will talk to me for a few moments only to go off to other men. Look of disgust is not as obvious here but still very much there. It is instead replaced with a look of pity.
    they probably just got bored of talking to you. this happens to any guy who can't keep the girl interested in the conversation.


    Girls #40-50: This is a general rejection upon first sight. Even when approaching with a light anecdote or observation to start a conversation, they simply respond coldly and refuse to talk further. Any responses henceforth are equally dismissive or non-existent. EXTREME anger and resentment towards me for approaching them, almost fury. Look of disgust is strongest in these situations above all others.
    these are the girls who are legit rejecting you because of your body language/looks/perceived age or because of external factors such as them having boyfriends/ them just being the terrible narcissistic people they are.

    fact is, while some of your rejections may be because of what you look like, many of them are likely for other reasons I've mentioned above.

    it would be interesting to see what you actually look like and what the girls you're approaching look like.

    I still believe that a perceived age difference is the most likely cause of your rejections.

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    Default Re: Ugly guy tries getting girls. (RESULTS INSIDE)

    Hi, I haven't posted in over a year and you're story here has made me want to share my experience with you.

    For reference, I want you to know that I've researched a lot about inner-game, which it seems you have issues with. If you believe you're ugly, so will the girls. Here are a few things to try:

    ~List out the things that you enjoy doing, or do for work, and other things like that, and realize that not everyone likes doing those things or even does them at all. Everyone knows it's not boring to hear new things, as long as they are explained energetically and positively. Don't forget ENERGETIC AND POSITIVE.

    ~Think of things that you feel confident doing, then take a couple minutes to do those things daily, even if it's crossword puzzles or something small like that, then take the internal reference of how you're feeling emotionally and try to feel the same way when you speak to girls.

    ~Don't try to get phone numbers. Find some 'canned' witty things to say on a cold approach, and throw them out there another 50 times, when you feel confident doing ONLY that, move to the next thing, and build up from there. People have broken each interaction into steps, use those steps! It's all somewhere on this site.

    ~There is no failure, there is only learning lessons. It's hard to believe that you can learn knew things with the belief that you're ugly, I know. But, if you throw out that believe (Mostly because in no way does it help you to believe that) then you can use each experience as a learning experience. Some of us didn't just read a site about "approach women" and now we're good at it. Some of us approached hundreds, if not thousands to even be considered a pickup-newb. It's ok man, just keep trying.

    Anyway, hope some of these tips can help, I know some of it is a little weird, but hey, people are weird. Lol. If there is anything you'd like me to elaborate on just let me know and I will.
    Caveat: Just because I feel a certain way about my journey doesn't mean you should feel the same about yours.

    If you can't say that you would rather die than not do it; you don't want it bad enough.

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    Default Re: Ugly guy tries getting girls. (RESULTS INSIDE)

    It's in your head bro. I picked up women wearing a red ragedy ann wig on a whim just to prove a point that big brass balls trumps everything. UP YOUR GAME!!!!

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    Default Re: Ugly guy tries getting girls. (RESULTS INSIDE)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Elitist View Post
    ~There is no failure, there is only learning lessons.
    And opportunities are like buses, there's always another one coming.

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    Default Re: Ugly guy tries getting girls. (RESULTS INSIDE)

    So you believe something. Then your beliefs get confirmed through experience. Well let me ask you, what's more likely:

    1. You're Ugly; or
    2. You Suck at Pick Up?

    Based on your post, you're asking girls to let you take pictures of them (a pretty low value move which also has the possibility of coming off as creepy). I couldn't envision a worse plan than this to pick up women. Seriously. I'd rather go out with Suave Kino's red wig than a camera any day. One is a prop that you hide behind, the other makes you the life of the party-- somebody who is clearly out having fun and doesn't give a shit. The exact opposite vibe that you get from someone with a camera.

    So basically, I don't know what you look like, but I do know that your game sucks. So between the two possibilities, it seems to me that the second is the most likely because I already have direct evidence of it.

    My friend has M.S., sores all over his body, and a hot girlfriend... like to the point that I'm jealous of him. I work with registered sex offenders and some of them have hot girlfriends, one of them even allows him to walk her around on a leash. I once had a friend who was missing all 10 of his fingers, he had a hot a girlfriend. I was born with hemifacial microsia (basically missing half of my face) and I can pull a 5 or a 6 at least once a week, and get the occasional 7-9. I have 2 girlfriends right now and have begun having some interest in a third, who is an 8, and 13 years younger than me (I'm 37). Then there's this 20-year old at work who likes to flirt with me. And if my ego were ever super-low and I absolutely needed a massive boost, I'd bet that on any given Saturday night, I could convince at least 6 attractive girls to get dressed up and go out with me.

    Once, my little cousin was ranting on FB about how he can't get girls. I talked to him about PUA stuff, I got him pointed in the right path, but he seemed to prefer feeling sorry for himself over improving himself. As they say, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Anyway, I posted on my FB, "Hey, I need to ask a favor. If you're a hot girl who likes me, then like this status..." And I got like 40 likes. And 20-30 of them were from girls who really were pretty hot and had nice things to say about me.

    So that's what I can do, and those are the stories I know about, first hand, with other people. So I can only imagine how much uglier than those people you must be if you can't get laid at all. Tough break there, dude!

    Oh.. and go on YouTube and look up Sean Stevenson. He has a girlfriend too (I don't know how hot she is though, tbh). So I guess you must be uglier than him as well. Man... that sucks for you!
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    Default Re: Ugly guy tries getting girls. (RESULTS INSIDE)

    Hey blackbird, can you have surgery to help correct your hemifacial microsia*????

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    Default Re: Ugly guy tries getting girls. (RESULTS INSIDE)

    Quote Originally Posted by drgnsfire12 View Post
    Hey blackbird, can you have surgery to help correct your hemifacial microsia*????
    Absolutely. I've got a prosthetic ear, had 2 jaw surgeries to give me a chin and a jaw line, etc, I wear a goatee to cover up most of the scars and long hair that goes over my ears... because surgeries like that, even though they can make you look a lot better, they can't quite make you normal...

    In my recent experience, I'm usually dating a girl for at least 3-6 months before she finally gets around to asking me what's wrong with me.

    Of course, I used to freak out about it, and want to get it out on the table early, and stuff like that. And what I didn't realize is that I was actually driving girls away with that, because I was seeking comfort and reassurance. Then I stopped giving a shit... and now they don't give a shit either.
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    Default Re: Ugly guy tries getting girls. (RESULTS INSIDE)

    Not giving a shit is always a good thing especially when it comes to something you had no control over !!!!
    I think everybody can take a lesson from you on how you don't let it stop you ....that's why I'm too ugly to pick up girls is a load of shit !!!!!

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    Default Re: Ugly guy tries getting girls. (RESULTS INSIDE)

    Quote Originally Posted by drgnsfire12 View Post
    Not giving a shit is always a good thing especially when it comes to something you had no control over !!!!
    I think everybody can take a lesson from you on how you don't let it stop you ....that's why I'm too ugly to pick up girls is a load of shit !!!!!
    You're 100% correct... but don't go around calling me ugly! LOL. (NOTE: I realize you didn't call me ugly.. but just the mere implication of it, really drives me to another level.. and I'm riffing off what you said, not because I'm offended at all, but because I'm going to demonstrate how I take an innocent and reasonable comment and use it to pump up my game...)

    I'm not sensitive to being called ugly in the sense that it bothers me at all. I don't really care what you think because you're probably just trying to get at my girls anyway (a classic chode move there, my friend!). I'm only sensitive to it in the sense that it shows an absolute lack of understanding about what's important in the game.

    I'm not saying you lack understanding. I'm speaking from my own perspective only here. I'm demonstrating why I actually appreciate a "cut down" like you inadvertently did to me (no offense taken.. I'm just trying to help show how I use the "chip on my shoulder" here to drive me.. for educational purposes). It doesn't offend me. It actually makes me more of a badass.

    When I get called out on my looks, the first thing that happens is I realize that I'm dealing with a shitty human being and I feel sympathetic. The second thing that happens is I go off chasing the hottest chicks and start to show them a good time... because the more you spend your time cutting me down, the more I spend time using my massive balls to approach the girls that you're too afraid to approach, or the ones you are jealous of. Just having a good time. That's all. No AA because I'm not even trying to sleep with them... I'm just trying to have a better time than you. And guess what, that goal is really farking attainable when you're dealing with a chode!

    I'll go out to breakfast with a 10, and even agree to PAY, to spite a 7 who is being a bitch. Every time. That's my attitude. That's my personality. And it farking works for me. It's not as good as being a studly sex god, but it's the technique I've kind of adopted because it gets me more results than I should ever be able to get on my own. Just knowing that any 7 or 8 who shoots me down will see me with a hotter babe 3 hours later is fucking priceless.

    You know, the ugly dude's path to hot chicks isn't as clean and easy as the handsome quarterback's. It sucks, it's not fair, but hey, life isn't fair. But really, how many hot girls do you want in your life? One? Three? Ten? There's an awful lot of hot girls on this planet. Getting 10 of them to like you and want to be with you ought to be pretty easy... And if you have 10 hot girls around you, finding just one who would be willing to sleep with you isn't that far of a stretch.
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