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Thread: Step 2 / Second thing to say??

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    Default Step 2 / Second thing to say??

    Hi Guys, Newbie here.I am finally comfortable approaching women with no approach anxiety. I usually get a good smile or response but then......just a loooooong uncomfortable silence. I cannot seem to be able to transition into step # 2/the second thing to say...I don't know if I just have too much information rattling around in my head from reading too much pua stuff lately or if it is just that I go into pure panic.... And freeze....Please Help!!!

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    Default Re: Step 2 / Second thing to say??

    Good job on approaching. You need to transition quickly into another topic. The opener is only useful for a short time to just get the converation started. I usually like to transition into saying something like, "Wow, you know you're really friendly! Where are you from?" Start building commonalities and using topics in her sentences as things to talk about and now you're in a real conversation.
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    Default Re: Step 2 / Second thing to say??

    As you build experience and get more comfortable you wont have all these openers and routines floating around in your head you'll just be able to have good conversations. I used to carry around cheat sheets of material with me when I first started but now I can talk to anybody about anything and I practice all the time whether it's the guy behind the deli counter, an old lady in the supermarket, or a girl at the check out counter I'm always striking up conversations and you will too ........ GL
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    Default Re: Step 2 / Second thing to say??

    Don't be thinking so much about techniques and trying to remember all the things you have read. Just have a few set ideas in your head of where u want the conversation to go, and have some backup topics in mind. Here is my open routine that works pretty well for me.

    Me: hi, I am Champ
    HB: ummm hi
    Me: I know right, Hi. Nice and simple, I can take a step back and do a pick up line instead if that's more your thing ( have a funny over the top line just in case they actually ask u to)
    HB. Hahaha
    Me: So, I'm guessing you are an astro physicist, you work for the government and have top secret clearence and you could tell me what you work on, but then you'd have to kill me. ( guess something over the top and funny, it always gets a laugh, and sometimes opens the door for more convo, sometimrs they will ask what makes you say that?)

    I always go right into what they do first, because it gives me an opportunity to DHV when they ask what I do, I have a cool job. Then from there, as I said, have other topics to jump into. Always guess or make statements, it is more fun. I plan out things that I will guess, and then my natural conversation is where the occasional question gets thrown in. And when they ask about you, also make them guess.

    HB: what do you do?
    me: well I guessed for you, what do u think I do? I'll give u a hint, I am not a dolphin trainer, not a fighter pilot, or bla bla.

    After you do that open, you are in set and just go with the flow. Also, I wouldn't go with a hi to open the 2 10s at the club, but it works great up to the 8s for me.

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    Default Re: Step 2 / Second thing to say??

    Quote Originally Posted by drgnsfire12 View Post
    I used to carry around cheat sheets of material with me when I first started
    Actually cheat sheets may not be too bad of an idea, before you build enough routine to naturally lead a conversation after the opener.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2champ2 View Post
    Just have a few set ideas in your head of where u want the conversation to go, and have some backup topics in mind.
    Yep. Write down a bunch of ideas and memorize them. It'll take a bit of practice until you get comfortable switching between them depending on situation, but once you do you're set.
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