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    Default I'm in need of assistance

    I hooked up with this girl about 3 months ago, we started hanging out again but only as friends as if nothing has happened which is pretty awesome to be honest, she has 3 other friends with which she spends pretty much all of her free time, she's an 8, 2 of them are 7-8's and yup, you guessed it - the last one's a 10. Very cute girl, she has a great body, I've been told she's very fun and the best part - unlike the other 3, she isn't as wild, when it comes to partying and sex (my type of girl). I haven't met her yet only through pictures and stories, we're going to the same party in about 2 weeks and I'm afraid that I might get sabotaged by my friend (HB8) who will probably let her know about our past or that she saw me hooking up with some random girl at the club, I feel absolutely no shame for doing so, but the problem is that she hates players, and if she senses even the slightest vibe of it - game over. I'm really looking forward to seeing this girl, the last time I was so intrigued by a girl was before I started my journey as a PUA, so you can see why I'm getting so worked up over this one. Unlike the other girls I game, my intention isn't just to get a 1 nightstand or anything of that order, but rather to see if she'll live up to the expectations and if so - try to make her my gf.

    I could really use some advice on what I should do, I have some tactics how to not come off as a player mainly - flipping the script, making her seem as the player, I'm more concerned about the friend.. any thoughts?

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    Default Re: I'm in need of assistance

    by the way, there's going to be a lot of people there and I'm not going to be the only guy there so how would you get her attention and defuse all the other guys (which I think is going to be needed since she's a 10)?

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    Default Re: I'm in need of assistance

    Update:

    I just got back from the party and I'm still a bit woozie yet I decided to share my story with all of you just for laughs. The 10 was just as I imagined, banging body, Incredible smile (which she hid for some unknown insecurities), she was pretty much the center of attention the whole night (by the males, including myself), the moment me and my 3 other male friends walked in the party she had a crush on one of them (he's taken by the way), I didn't bother to notice it, and only found out about it when we already left. I pretty much neg'ed her to death, since everyone's tactics to "smooth" talk her didn't work, my friends tried to do the same (note - they don't know squat about the whole PUA thing), I did something which to my mind is a rookie move and said that "the're only being hard on you because the're too shy to compliment your beautiful smile, which is a bit counter-intuitive with my neging (the entire night I sensed that she was pretty resistant to kino escalations, so I tried to build attraction&comfort verbally first) . She did not take it as well as I anticipated and the room went pretty quiet after that, I didn't get anxious and felt/behaved as if I was self amused. The only girl which I knew there was pretty into me for some unknown reasons even though I showed her 0 interest what so ever, which included her putting her head on my shoulder and other kino IOI's, her interest in me was not shown verbally but physically, her other friend who's a HB8 showed me her interest with compliance and such IOI's as laughing at pretty much everything I say. I was not interested in either of them, my eyes were set on the 10, yet I couldn't manage to get her attention for more than 5 seconds even though I was the life of the party with my positive and slightly higher energy. This is the greatest obstacle I have ever faced in my whole carrier as a PUA, it could be the alcohol that negatively effected my game, but I figure that it was mostly the fact that I'm still too much of a rookie and she started chasing my other friend who has a gf just because of his looks, and my game wasn't strong enough to compete with that. After many failed subtle attempts to "wow" her we went to sleep, me, the HB10 and the friend she was attracted to shared a bed (I know this may sound pathetic but it was mostly funny). I have no idea if she was pretending to be sleepy or if she actually felt the urge to fall asleep ASAP but as we were laying down, she was moving from my side of the bed to my friend's, kept laughing at all my subtle cocky/funny little comments (example - how she's practicing taekwondo while sleeping). She was wearing tight yoga pants (as I said she has a banging body), my friend noticed that and looked at with a surprised look on his face "wow", later on whispered in my ear how he wishes that he didn't have a girlfriend. Even though I was completely into the HB10 I found the whole situation f...... hilarious, I'm too much of a rookie to take over, he has a girlfriend, I'm not sure if she's aware that if she still tries - she has 0 chances. I think to my self - Incredible, and again start laughing out loud (no sarcasm intended). I was hysterical the whole time while we were laying in bed due to the situation that has occurred. We had 0 sleep what so ever due to her black belt taekwondo kicks, when everyone gathered up in the morning my female friend tried showing her affection for me again (and this time way more obvious than usual), unsuccessfully though, the HB10 was sound asleep for everyone's eyes to see and by that moment I realized, for today - it's game over. I wish I could have played it better than this, but sad and as funny as it is - I managed to fail with a girl that I've been actually attracted to since my whole PUA journey.
    I feel no negative emotions for my failure, I find it as a source of motivation to improve, and since I feel no shame in making a fool of my self - I'm sharing this story would you guys, what would you have done differently in my situation?

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    Default Re: I'm in need of assistance

    This sounds like you're a college kid, am I right? So I'll tailor my advice towards that scenario.

    I know you said that the HB10 isn't into players, but maybe that isn't the case. I have a gut feeling this is a real thing, and not just a trope, but girls are in love with the idea of being the inspiration for a man to change his ways - why do you think Grease was such a big hit?

    If I were you, I would have playfully gamed all of the girls in the set EXCEPT her. You basically ignored the one girl who was super into you, which I'm sure drove her mad at wanting your approval with IOIs. That girl should have been the HB10.

    By gaming everyone else, but not committing to a target, you demonstrate that you are a fun, cocky player-type, but are keeping your options open. You need to be the life of the party but unattached, and the HB10 will see that. Acknowledge the HB10, but don't pursue her, since everyone else is already; think back on Nash's game theory in "A Beautiful Mind" or that one "waitress" gimmick in "Hitch".

    HB10 might start feeling a bit insecure since you're engaging all other girls but her. This is when you make your intentions known; you should IOI her indirectly via proximity, "accidental" kino, and what not.

    Make your move outside of the party scene. Seems like she is more comfortable out of it, anyway, since she's not constantly being hit on. If you see her on campus or whatever, start chatting her up and lament over the fact that you never really got a chance to talk. Don't be too smooth or apply too much game; you want to come off as a real person, existing outside of fun party guy mode. At the same time, don't focus entirely on her either - until she qualifies herself to you. Then game her with more and more direct interest as she qualifies herself more and more.

    Anyway, that's how I'd play it out. Take my opinion with a grain of salt; I haven't focused much on sarging specifically these last few months, but I have a feeling that this might work.

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    Default Re: I'm in need of assistance

    Awesome advice on focusing my attention on everyone BUT her, since she's used getting attention from guys this will be as if bursting her bubble "what?! I'm hot and he's not paying any attention to me?". All the girls go to college, I'm going next year, so the only way to game any of them is when we all meet up which will probably be this weekend, I could ask her out to meet for just the 2 of us, but there's 0 attraction and pretty much 0 comfort at this point, and due to her bitch-shield being on, I'd rather game her in-person than on facebook, so that's a big no no for now.

    This is a pretty big challenge for me, I can get IOI's from 8's without even thinking about gaming them, but 10's and 8's have to be treated differently. At this point I'm concurred with getting the 10 just to know that I can, rather than getting to know her, I've noticed that the less I'm attracted the less I put them on the pedestal as if "they're the prize" and that affects my game a bunch. Again, thanks for the advice

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    Default Re: I'm in need of assistance

    Wow dude, you're still in high school? That's fucking awesome. You got a whole life of good times ahead of you. Don't get caught up on this one HB10.

    But yeah, from what I've picked up from this site vicariously, HB10s can be really insecure. You just need to show that you're the kind of guy who can easily get a girl like that, so the opportunity isn't one you need to jump on right away. This will drive her CRAZY. Why isn't he into me? How come he pays less attention to me than he does the other girls, when I'm OBVIOUSLY more attractive?

    If you can eat steak whenever you want, you don't always feel like getting steak, right?

    You already have a good understanding of game. Trust your gut, but whatever you do, STAND OUT from the rest of the guys. You want to be Alpha; if they're sniffing her ass like she's in heat, you sniffing hardest is only gonna make you look desperate. You don't compete for her attention - she needs to prove herself worthy of YOURS, and only then do you trickle it out to her, bit by bit.

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    Default Re: I'm in need of assistance

    I graduated last year, I need to retake 1 exam, would be awesome to be in high school right now due to my new understanding of the game haha, thanks by the way, if it's 1 thing I can do is stand out, but not to the point where my confidence reaches arrogance and not the point where my lack of neediness makes me look gay, I'll keep you updated on the situation


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