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    Default Re: How Much Armor Do You Wear?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelchoco View Post
    If the girl can trick me into dropping my armor I will do it. Otherwise, no way. In a way you have to drop your armor if you really want to connect but this will open you to get hurt and for some reason women will always betray you once you let your armor down. It's in their genetic code to do it.

    The only way to keep a girl forever interested is to never let go of your armor but this gets really tiring and is not sustainable as even the most badass guys will still have some feelings. The other problem for me is that I always feel guilty of having the girl under my spell. I want to give a girl the power over her own heart, that's why I only use PUA techniques to pick up chics but once I'm in a relationship I just drop my mask as I believe that being a fake is weak. If I have to psychologically manipulate a girl so she doesn't leave me, then is something I'm not willing to do. In the end it depends on your values I think.
    This is almost exactly what I was thinking/feeling as I was typing this. And it wasn't a cynicism out of anger of past relationship failures, but rather a trend I noticed that once you drop armor things didn't seem to work out.

    But when you read what mystique writes:

    Don't let your experience of a select few bitches colour your judgement of the entire female race. That would be letting them still hold that power over you and rob you of the opportunity to genuinely connect with a woman who is right for you (and actually sweet and genuine)


    She's right too, and I think that's the optimistic side of this we have to take..as hard as that may be. Personally I'm still working on it, so we'll see how things turn out.


    Great responses from everyone, thank you for the feedback!

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    Default Re: How Much Armor Do You Wear?

    Just to add a bit more to this. What you are referring to is partially right (about having an armour) in a sense that you don't want to highlight your weaknesses to a girl. That's not hiding or lying. You are just presenting the best version of yourself. However, if the girl points it out or it gets mentioned, you should not try to hide it any way. Accept your weakness, may be even tell the girl you are insecure about this. Accepting your flaws and being concious of it is in fact an Alpha male's trait imo as
    it takes a lot of courage to be Vulnerable
    So in a way you still have your armour high (not highlighting your weaknesses about yourself) but at the same time you are vulnerable too (you accepting it when it gets pointed out).

    Hope that clears the point.

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    Default Re: How Much Armor Do You Wear?

    I don't really care for the analogy. I don't think you need any "armor". All you need to do is use the same self discloser rules you would use with anyone you just meet. They tell you something, you tell them something. Obviously once you sleep with them the self-disclosure can increase, more so then a guy friend you met.

    What you described was a woman losing her feelings for you. It doesn't mean what they told you was a lie. They were telling you what they felt at the time. They truly felt that, but their feelings changed. Their feelings changed because you displayed some sort of weak/feminine behavior. Not just one time but over and over again. This has nothing to do with revealing your feelings. You can reveal your feelings and still be masculine.

    They key is showing that you like them, showing them how they make you feel, but being perfectly ok with them leaving. You want them, but you definitely don't need them. That's not putting up walls. That's being comfortable with yourself and knowing if she isn't around you can easily get another, awesome woman.

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    Default Re: How Much Armor Do You Wear?

    Quote Originally Posted by DirectIsBest View Post
    I don't really care for the analogy. I don't think you need any "armor". All you need to do is use the same self discloser rules you would use with anyone you just meet. They tell you something, you tell them something. Obviously once you sleep with them the self-disclosure can increase, more so then a guy friend you met.

    What you described was a woman losing her feelings for you. It doesn't mean what they told you was a lie. They were telling you what they felt at the time. They truly felt that, but their feelings changed. Their feelings changed because you displayed some sort of weak/feminine behavior. Not just one time but over and over again. This has nothing to do with revealing your feelings. You can reveal your feelings and still be masculine.

    They key is showing that you like them, showing them how they make you feel, but being perfectly ok with them leaving. You want them, but you definitely don't need them. That's not putting up walls. That's being comfortable with yourself and knowing if she isn't around you can easily get another, awesome woman.
    Fucking A man !

    You shouldn't mind telling a girl that she's sexy, that her body is out of control, that her eyes are sexy, that the way she's dressed makes you want her, that she has a good ass.

    This all is done of course ideally after attraction and after she showed a bit of compliance. So, in the early stages of rapport.

    Why not tell her she's sexy, if she is and she's being open with you ?! That's what she like to hear anyway ! Just don't be pervy and disrespectful guys and you'll be ok
    "The world will never change much less become what you want it to be. The only thing that can change is you. Face your fears, grow stronger and become what you want to be."
    _Xavier.


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