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Thread: So as a true PUA you can't be yourself?

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    Default So as a true PUA you can't be yourself?

    Hey y'all,

    In field I've been slowly seeing patterns emerge and honestly it feels as if when I'm being myself I completely lose frame and act childish sometimes (I joke around way to much), and it makes me realize that is that just how it is? I mean I don't care what people think about me but I don't get the results I want with them when I am being myself.

    To get the results you want with people you have to act,behave,speak a certain way (ultimately being manipulative?). There's no other way eh...? Feels like I lost a tiny bit of myself on my way as I climb to the top of the mountain.

    I guess its just a bit sad that no one likes me for who I actually am(Or maybe they do, just not the way I want them to) When I use a lot of pua and other persuasion tactics, it seems like everyone likes me, (guess I've just learned how to portrait a like able character in general now)... even though that's not who I am. Is that just a sacrifice you make?

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    Default Re: So as a true PUA you can't be yourself?

    Ahh this is a great question man. Unfortunately, the path you speak of is one I see far too many guys go down. They want to use some fabricated personalities and tactics that tricks a girl into sleeping with them, while this can rarely make short term results, it is not something you can keep up.

    The key is to take a lot of what is said on these forums with a grain of salt dude. A lot of the people on here actually don't get laid, and aren't being themselves (double loss). To become good with women, you can totally be a 100% jokester. I definitely am extremely immature, if not even more around women. I don't change who I am or what I think, but I do sort of calibrate how I am acting a little to better to communicate and relate better to who I am speaking with. Whether that is girls, clients, friends, what have you. You don't have to change yourself, but calibrating is the key. Some might say this is manipulation. To which I make this point:

    Around my best pals, I fart, scream, drink too much alcohol, talk about fucking girls, and wrestle them. Do I do this at work? Do I act this way in front of my great grandmother? HELL NO. You don't either. You have calibrated to the people around you, to not calibrate would be socially retarded. Inept. Most guys just don't know how girls operate, so they don't know how to calibrate with girls. Just a little philosophy

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    Default Re: So as a true PUA you can't be yourself?

    I actually pick up the most women when I am myself. I was pretty good with women before I found PUA. Once I found out about PUA and tried the techniques it HURT my game.


    Quote Originally Posted by lifestylebible View Post
    Around my best pals, I fart, scream, drink too much alcohol, talk about fucking girls, and wrestle them. Do I do this at work? Do I act this way in front of my great grandmother? HELL NO. You don't either. You have calibrated to the people around you, to not calibrate would be socially retarded. Inept. Most guys just don't know how girls operate, so they don't know how to calibrate with girls. Just a little philosophy
    I like this but for a different reason. I talk to women LIKE I talk to my best friends (except I don't tell my best friends how awesome I think their ass is). I fart in front of women all the time. I actually fart in bed, after I've slept with them, and dutch oven them as much as possible. I talk about having sex with other women in front of women I'm seeing all the time.

    I don't do this at work or in front of my grandmother, but I've found if you act around a woman like you act around your good friends they will like you. You don't need a filter (just don't tell her that her friend is better looking then her).

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    Default Re: So as a true PUA you can't be yourself?

    Hahaha yes I fucking fart in front of every girl I fuck too. That's a sub meaning to this, part of attracting girls is totally being comfortable like you are with your friends. Farting, no filters, and whatever else. I typically leave out previous girls I've fucked but to each it's own
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    Default Re: So as a true PUA you can't be yourself?

    I find that when I am myself... I am MEAN.... I don't know why I'm so mean... I am mean in my job, too.... I am about to evict a family with four kids the day after Christmas and I have a taser that I carry in self-defense....

    But if this is my personality, I have to live with it and be myself....

    I have a hard time lightening up and being "fun," I'm not even sure that I know what "fun" is.....

    Life is about survival.... I don't have time to make fart jokes..... I'm worried about getting rent money out of people that are in my apartment complex and trailer park....

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    Default Re: So as a true PUA you can't be yourself?

    Yes correct you cant be yourself. You can only be a pua. No one likes you and being a pua wont change that youre probably a weak loser with no social skills or you were raised by a single mother with lots of girls around and you never learned to become a man. Not in a bad way just in a look at yourself honestly and the whole pua thing doesnt teach you to be a man it teaches you tactics which make you look like one to make a women think thats what you are. Which is fine if you can make it work and you dont want true transformation. Yes you are playing a character because you lack necessary traits to socialize sucessfully. Youre reverse engineering a functional personality without knowing why. Youll always feel empty and unfullfilled and youll never find the answers to lifes meaningful questions. Youll live a half life. The life of a robot and eventually youre programming wont comply with your inner dysfunction causing your subconcious to reject it, and youll need new methods to avoid a complete collapse. Which can be done but with intervals of stress and little inner fullfillment or certainty. Youll operate by catch phrases like do what you want, and they will be effective while you belief in them, which is nice.

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    Default Re: So as a true PUA you can't be yourself?

    Gironon, I like the meaning behind what you are saying, although I think it is a little extreme lol.

    Look man. I came from a shitty family with mega authoritarian military veteran parents. I was the youngest and my siblings were both 8+ years older than me, and they had a different dad than me. My parents called me nasty stuff, they called me nasty stuff, I internalized it, got made fun of at school like A MOTHERFUCKER. Childhood was fucking rough on my self esteem, and thus socializing did not come naturally at all. But if you met me now you would never guess, because I have decided to CHANGE and IMPROVE MYSELF.

    It can be done, you and I both know damn well I am not 1 in a million.. there are plenty of others that have done it as well. Don't let your history decide your future man trust me.
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    Default Re: So as a true PUA you can't be yourself?

    Yeah I'm not very sure yet, I'm just trying to put together this complete game plan that is going to be very solid for me when I start sarging. However it's a script and honestly it feels completely fake. I'm amazing with people in general now, something I worked at and honed, I do follow certain rules however. With women, to get points I have to follow certain rules and I guess there is nothing I can do about it, women expect something out of me and I expect things from them, it has to be a mutual trade off. I mean I've changed a lot for the better. But hey everything in the universe is governed by laws and rules.

    There is nothing I can do... to get a certain result, you have to do a certain thing.

    I'm actually fine with that now.

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    Default Re: So as a true PUA you can't be yourself?

    I think it is wishfyl thinking to say u can be urself all the time. No you cant ! If u did all the time people will be overwhelmed. This is because everyone has a different sense of humor, identity and things that hold dear. If you happen to cross a line too early they will take u for a creep. Same with women ! if you go to comfort before attraction u will have trouble ! Also sexual tension is something that cannot be explained that easily. Some people are turned on by things that some absolutely abhor. !

    We all have t calibrate all the time ! I would like to call my boss as asshole as he is sometimes one. But I cant !!! Doing so is stupid ! Calibrate. I am not a PUA master. Just learning and calibrating a response is the most difficult thing in PUA as in real life !


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