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    Default HB 8/8.5 not initiating in spite of showing interest/IOI's

    Big time texting game with this HB8/8.5, got her out once, nothing big, a short walk/ride through the town (time constraint from me), has shown IOIs, continued with text game. She started to send pics out of the blue, never complimented her looks, very rarely complimented personality/style traits, negged a bunch, runned cocky/funny and smooth game. Got her hooked with future things to do together. The issue, however, is that she never initiates. With one exception, when I stopped contact and she reinitiated it out of the blue, she never initiates. WHenever I initiate she instantly responds to my calls/texts, whatever. Her type is used to be getting attention from all kinds of dudes.

    Current status: Briefly called her a few days ago, she was out, told her I'm free on a day this week, she giggled and said ok, we'll talk. I need to mention she was opened to the ideea of a 2nd date from the start. Back to now, she didn't initiate a thing since my last phonecall. Therefore, 2 possibilites arise, from my point of view (waiting for others, from more the more enlightened of you):
    a. call her to discuss plans a day before/that same day.
    b. don't contact her, let that free day of mine pass, let the new year's eve pass and just wait for her to reinitiate.

    PS: During our latest texts i (falsely, i presume) annoyed her with the fact that she wrote "Kisses", while I wrote back "you're not worthy"

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    Default Re: HB 8/8.5 not initiating in spite of showing interest/IOI's

    Currently dating an HB8/8.5 now...changes everything I was familiar with about dating. She did almost the exact thing at first and it was pretty annoying.

    someone correct me if I'm wrong because I'm new at the dating part of this, but it seems that the first few dates with HB8+ can't have too much time pass between them otherwise she will lose interest and/or start seeing someone else. She probably has offers on a daily basis and no shortage of old friends to spend her time with.

    To that extent, I would call to confirm plans the day of. If she flakes and doesn't offer a follow-up date, maybe it's time to go no contact and move on (I broke that rule and it worked for me, but I think it was under a different set of circumstances than most). She might initiate contact again and then you can pick up where you left off.

    Also, something else I learned after my first date, future plans to do things together don't mean anything in the beginning. She may seem hooked and excited to do stuff with you on future dates, but until you go out with her a few more times and maintain her attraction and build comfort, that can change in a flash.

    Two questions for you:

    1) did you just say you were free and leave it at that? I would've suggested an activity on a certain date and time

    2) what was her response to the "you're not worthy" comment? Over text, that might sound a little too dickish unless you have enough rapport built. In person or on her phone, you can use tone of voice or a smirk to make it a playful neg.

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    Default Re: HB 8/8.5 not initiating in spite of showing interest/IOI's

    I'm more than sure she has bunch of offers, I wouldn't care less, as she was the one keeping the convo up when it died. More than that, a few nights ago i did a congruency test, she passed it flawlessly (sent a selfie when i requested after she had already sent a couple of pics previously).

    Quote Originally Posted by Weapon View Post

    Two questions for you:

    1) did you just say you were free and leave it at that? I would've suggested an activity on a certain date and time

    2) what was her response to the "you're not worthy" comment? Over text, that might sound a little too dickish unless you have enough rapport built. In person or on her phone, you can use tone of voice or a smirk to make it a playful neg.
    1. I told her i'm free on a specific day in a very suggestive way. Keep in mind that we've had a previous convo where I stated we'll see eachother between xmas and newyear's and she agreed, no questions asked.

    2. We had enough rapport for me to do so. She was the one to start going all kissy over text, while I never did it. I checked the texts, i actually said the "you're not worthy" line earlier, she said nothing. In the end I said "Have a good night. I'll be thinking if i'm to kiss you" while she textkissed me first. Then she said I've pissed her of. However, we had a short talk over the phone since then, she didn't seemed annoyed at all.

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    Default Re: HB 8/8.5 not initiating in spite of showing interest/IOI's

    I'm no expert, i like to put that as a disclaimer when i give advice, i guess you can call me an afc experience wise, except im not an idiot. With an attractive girl you definitely want to escalate things fast as i'm sure she has handfuls of guys hitting on her everyday. If you've been talking for a while and she's being flakey or not serious about meeting up, you gotta ask yourself if the effort your putting into this girl is worth it. My 2 cents. If she really wants it she'll make time to meet with you asap. If she's playing hard to get I would say don't even bother because that's not an attractive trait when it's drawn out over a long period of time. Attraction is something that takes place fast and in a spontaneous matter, not something to be gamed around with for long and time wasted.

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    Default Re: HB 8/8.5 not initiating in spite of showing interest/IOI's

    NO expert here either.
    I would brush away the slightly dickish answer and try to get her out on a date with a specific plan. Dont revert back to it at all. The only thing you have to remember now is that the next time you try to kiss her she is going to bring that up !

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    Default Re: HB 8/8.5 not initiating in spite of showing interest/IOI's

    So you're seeing a good looking woman whose interested in you, thinks you're funny and wants to kiss you, yet you're bitching because she doesn't initiate with you. You have obviously never dated a good looking woman before! If if you want a woman to initiate with you all the time, date a less attractive one.

    Youre right, she does have other options coming at her almost every day, yet she continues to talk with you. Why, because she likes you. She's playing the game, as should you, so chase her!

    As as far as the 2nd date thing, be a man and make plans! Don't suggest that you're free and expect her to make plans, she won't. You tell her you're going roller skating, ice skating, mini golf, whatever's fun and exciting and that she should join you. I guarantee you that she will say yes.


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