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    Default Help with some Dark Arts

    Hey guys. I'm wanting a few XPERT opinions here. I already have a whole plan sketched out in my head but before I do anything, I want a few inputs. I'm going to make a move on my GED teacher. She's 40 years older than I am but an 8 all the way. The method I'm thinking about using is kind of dark, I would go into details, but way TOO detailed for time's sake for the moment. I'm thinking hypnotic suggestion to the infinite degree, like pinning her up against the car and telling her what to feel, think, and want just by a few choice lines. This is basically what I'm going to tell her: "Jane Doe, if you give me a few seconds of your time, I really need to get this off my chest. Ever since I laid eyes on you, I've fantasized about holding your hands, kissing you, holding you, caressing your beautiful hair, getting lost in your gorgeous eyes; I know that you have had the same fantasies by the way you talk, the way you walk, the way you smile at me when I enter your classroom. But you have these chains binding you, these subconscious restraints that keep you from acting upon and showing that you have these fantasies, and right here right now, it's only you and I, and if you allow me, tonight is the night that both of us are going to be rid of these chains that bind our forbidden lusts for each other. So, unless you object other wise, I'm going to kiss you now". That's where I lean in and kiss her, and after that, I'll be able to suggest anything furthermore that's going to happen. Now, I'd really appreciate if someone, if there is something wrong with that, help me improve it so that I can make it more effective, thank you.

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    Default Re: Help with some Dark Arts

    I'm thinking hypnotic suggestion to the infinite degree, like pinning her up against the car and telling her what to feel, think, and want just by a few choice lines. This is basically what I'm going to tell her: "Jane Doe, if you give me a few seconds of your time, I really need to get this off my chest. Ever since I laid eyes on you, I've fantasized about holding your hands, kissing you, holding you, caressing your beautiful hair, getting lost in your gorgeous eyes; I know that you have had the same fantasies by the way you talk, the way you walk, the way you smile at me when I enter your classroom. But you have these chains binding you, these subconscious restraints that keep you from acting upon and showing that you have these fantasies, and right here right now, it's only you and I, and if you allow me, tonight is the night that both of us are going to be rid of these chains that bind our forbidden lusts for each other. So, unless you object other wise, I'm going to kiss you now".
    I hate to rain on your party kid, but you have much to learn about women.

    1. "hypnotic suggestion" cannot "force" a woman to want you (and if it could, you would most likely have some serious rape allegations coming your way)

    2. "hypnotic suggestion" is impractical in the majority of circumstances. its benefits are limited at best.

    3. using long memorized routines is just a recipe for failure. A) you're going to have trouble remembering all that garbage in the heat of the moment. B) pinning her up against a car is going to raise so many rape alarms in her head that you'll probably get pepper sprayed and kicked in the nuts C) even if that doesn't happen she's going to be weirded out when you're saying all that shit.

    4. telling her you've fantasized about her is not a great way to start a conversation. but it is an excellent way to get a restraining order filed against you lol

    5. you're her student, you realize institutions (even colleges) have policies against teachers/professors sleeping with students most of witch include the punishments "you'll get fired and most likely go to jail". even if she was head over heels in love with you, she probably wouldn't risk her career and freedom just to sleep with some kid who's no good in bed anyways.

    6. she's old enough to be your f*cking grandma, why do you really want her?

    7. most women her age are looking for mature and experienced old men or a divorced hunk in his 40's to sleep with. for very practical reasons I won't get into, most women only date/hookup with guys in a reasonable age range compared to them. the sweet spot is when you're just a few years older than the girl and thus you're the more mature and experienced guy who's still similar in age.

    8. bottom line, pursuing this woman in particular is both impractical and unlikely. you have nothing to offer her that her vibrator can't. fancy hypnotic lines won't change that fact.

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    Default Re: Help with some Dark Arts

    Ah man,

    Now you can go out and field test whatever you want (to a certain extent, don't need to explain), but when you go out in the field don't go into with the mentality that this is exactly how it is going to work, and she will automatically not reject me because you were ballsy.

    Humans, ESPECIALLY girls, are way more complicated with that. I don't mean to offend you here if your game is really tight already and this doesn't pertain to you.. but judging from the question it seems you need some more practice man. You can't just read a few things on the forum and expect to be the OG who uses dark magic tricks to get girls. I hate to be the guy to tell you this honestly... but tricks are just that, tricks. Gimmicks. You gotta learn some deeper shit than that man.

    That being said, diving deep into yourself and self improvement is A-the route to go and B- fucking worth every second of it


    Hope I could provide a little insight man

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    Default Re: Help with some Dark Arts

    Try it and tell us what happens...

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    Default Re: Help with some Dark Arts

    Well, first of all, I'm glad I didn't see that first view before I did it. VERY VERY glad I didn't because I'm expected to go to a ballroom dance with her Friday night. Yes, I also realize that I was kind of rushing trying to post the thread and go to sleep, but I know what I said wasn't hypnotic suggestion. But also, whenever you are raised by your grandparents your whole life, you tend to have the exact same mindset as older women. Also, who are you to criticize me on anything, the only type of women I've seen anyone talk about scoring is young, hot girls. I prefer a woman that is mature and knows what she wants in life. I don't want just a one night fling, and the school that I go to, you don't even pay the teachers to teach you, they do it for the betterment of society's education. I could go off and have a date with her anytime I wanted and the director there wouldn't even care one bit. Now, I know that on forums, people higher in rank like to crush newbies. Well, I have something to say to that, I couldn't care less what rank I am on a virtual forum on the internet, aight?? This is a forum to help guys achieve success in whatever they care to achieve, so unless you have anything positive to say, go pick on someone as low as you are, because until you learn about what I have achieved in REAL life and can backup with life facts that you are truly high ranking as I am, shut your rambling negs up, aight? You can tell a lot about someone by how they interact with people on the web. Have a good day!!

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    Default Re: Help with some Dark Arts

    Haha glad it worked for you bro. Field testing is always the first step, consulting with others is the second. Did you pull this exact move, or what happened? We'd love to hear a field report man !

    We all have different tastes. I like 'em young and weird, some like em mature and a developed.

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    Default Re: Help with some Dark Arts

    Also, you show that you are high in rank, but apparently you're not when it comes to being an alpha-male or you would have chosen to help improvise or help change my technique so that I could achieve what I needed to. It might have improved your reputation a little bit. I stumbled upon this sight to see what it was about in the first place and when I seen what it was about, I thought it was a golden opportunity to help others improve, not crush their confidence. Now, I'm not quoting them directly, but I think the higher ups would agree with me when I say that this is a learning forum, not a "you aren't qualified to compete in the game". Please be of more help next time. Lastly, it all depends on where you live, the personality of the people in the city you are gaming, the setting, the time of day you execute the field test, the confidence that you show, and the way in which you execute it. Did it ever occur to you that I might have already been working up to seeing if she was interested or not before I even tried it?? I've been poking at her subconscious for about 3 to 4 weeks to see how to approach her, gathering her interests, getting her opinions on current events, and seeing what hobbies she has. She's older, so I don't expect you know how to approach a more mature woman. If you have had older women, cool, more power to you brother, but don't go smashing on people you don't even know, because that guy might become the next Mystery for all you know. Or you could have such a big impact on the person that he might become a socially awkward loser, (AFC), and go single for the rest of his life. But I'm not emotional, so next time you get a wild hair up your butt, THINK!!! Maybe that's something you haven't learned, but in being a true alpha male, that's one of the key characteristics involved. Thank you so much for not bashing on me lifestyle and redstar

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    Default Re: Help with some Dark Arts

    Did it ever occur to you that I might have already been working up to seeing if she was interested or not before I even tried it??
    did it ever occur to you that you provided little or no context at all?

    I've been poking at her subconscious for about 3 to 4 weeks to see how to approach her, gathering her interests, getting her opinions on current events, and seeing what hobbies she has.
    that's good and all, but you still need to find a way to neutralize the "teacher-student dynamic" (the best way of course would be to graduate and then come back for her) but otherwise you need to make her feel safe about you.

    I assume you're under 18 and thus your teacher would be risking more than you can imagine to fark you. I'm studying law in college, and I shouldn't have to get into the details for you to realize the legal implications she could potentially face.

    don't go smashing on people you don't even know, because that guy might become the next Mystery for all you know.
    I would feel like a failure if you became just like mystery or any pua who advocates lying about who you are to get women.

    But I'm not emotional
    if you weren't emotionally immature, you wouldn't be rambling on and on about "being a true alpha male" and about what you think about me (as if I give 2 st!ts lol)

    bashing on me
    its not my fault you couldn't handle a little criticism.

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    Default Re: Help with some Dark Arts

    I can handle criticism that makes sense. What I don't allow are amateurs that tell me how things are. I am Mystery's great great grand apprentice, and I for one know that he does not advocate lies. Now, as for under 18, that's bull, I'm 22 in May, and no, I'm not in high school but GED classes, thought I made that clear. Anyways, I don't lie about myself because that would be admitting your failure of being a true SA. I've been on this site for such a short time, so just because my stats are low, doesn't mean I have no experience. You are totally insecure about how your game goes, that you just had to come right in and criticize mine. Now as for my posts, please stay off of them, thank you. Btw, I don't take time to add detailed context because I'm scatter brained when it comes to sitting down before a keyboard and writing out EVERY SINGLE detail of EVERYTHING.

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    Default Re: Help with some Dark Arts

    I'm 22 in May, and no, I'm not in high school but GED classes, thought I made that clear.
    that changes things a good bit, you failed to mention that previously.

    [QUOTE][You are totally insecure about how your game goes,/QUOTE]

    you don't know how my game goes lol

    [QUOTE][I don't take time to add detailed context because I'm scatter brained when it comes to sitting down before a keyboard and writing out EVERY SINGLE detail of EVERYTHING./QUOTE]

    if you want good advice, you have to give good details.

    for instance, because you left out context, I assumed you were some kid in high school in said case the best advice would be to forget about trying to bang your teacher.

    the fact that your almost as old as I am changes your situation a little bit. though a teacher student dynamic still exists and it would be highly unethical for her to sleep with you while you're her student, but of course there are far fewer negative consequences if she gets in trouble for doing it than there would be if you were 17.

    you always have to think about what's going through the woman's head while you're gaming her, the fact that you could ruin her reputation as a teacher has to have gone through her head at some point. you need to constantly reassure her that your sexual relationship will remain secret.

    hopefully you're smart enough to get your GED by the time you turn 22, you could always shelf her till then and have a nice summer fling with her once she has no ethical dilemma to face.


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