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Thread: what is the deal with numbers?

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    Default what is the deal with numbers?

    scenario 1) when I say, " whats your number, maybe we can hang out"

    she agrees. But later, on the "date" when I make my move, " no we are just friends"

    scenario 2) Me: I think you're beautiful, I want to get to know you. How about I get your number and we go get lunch in the cafe. Her: ok, ( writes down number) Later, it turns out to be the wrong number, or she flakes.

    whats the big deal, am I coming on too strong?

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    Default Re: what is the deal with numbers?

    Not enough information, we need what your interactions look like and what her body language is like. Is she sending you indicators of interest? Is she playing hard to get ? etc.

    once you understand behavior you will be able to pick things up easier.

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    Default Re: what is the deal with numbers?

    Never say "maybe we can hang out, or let's hang out."
    Girls are attracted to confident guys who can make a plan / decision & aren't afraid to be direct.

    Never tell a girl she's beautiful right away. (After you know her, then yes, it's OK...)
    Never say you want to get to know her better... That's already implied when you're in the early stages & the reason you approached her in the first place.

    And never ask for a date before you've built attraction. That's a 90%+ rate of getting a no, or a flake out.

    Getting the number shouldn't be an issue or a difficult task.

    If you build attraction first (by properly flirting) most of the time the girl will give you her number without you even asking or suggesting you swap digits.

    It sounds like you're jumping the gun with trying to get numbers & "dates".

    Just be the confident, fun guy & don't worry about the outcome...
    When you're in the right mindset & attraction is there, things will flow sooooooooo much better.


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    Default Re: what is the deal with numbers?

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Mal View Post
    Never say "maybe we can hang out, or let's hang out."
    Girls are attracted to confident guys who can make a plan / decision & aren't afraid to be direct.

    Never tell a girl she's beautiful right away. (After you know her, then yes, it's OK...)
    Never say you want to get to know her better... That's already implied when you're in the early stages & the reason you approached her in the first place.

    And never ask for a date before you've built attraction. That's a 90%+ rate of getting a no, or a flake out.

    Getting the number shouldn't be an issue or a difficult task.

    If you build attraction first (by properly flirting) most of the time the girl will give you her number without you even asking or suggesting you swap digits.

    It sounds like you're jumping the gun with trying to get numbers & "dates".

    Just be the confident, fun guy & don't worry about the outcome...
    When you're in the right mindset & attraction is there, things will flow sooooooooo much better.
    Solid advice.

    I am getting number with different reasons but not like we can hang out or something. First i am trying yo detect same interests with chicks after i m creating a dhv about it and ask for her number.

    For exampla, today i get a number from girl, she has interest in self improvement so i said i found out a new test for ya give your whatsapp for sending. She wrote without resistance.
    Last edited by Dicemaster; 03-13-2016 at 02:45 PM. Reason: word mistakes

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    Default Re: what is the deal with numbers?

    Thanks T-mal really solid advice. Attraction is my biggest sticking point.

    I should pay attention to signals before , I make my move. I still don't know how to flirt yet, so I'm working on it.

    most times when I begin flirting; it starts with " you're very pretty/beautiful " then later " you have a nice body". It's pretty awkward.

    one girl even told me yesterday , " why did you bring that up?"

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    Default Re: what is the deal with numbers?

    as far as getting a good number, ask her what her number is, then say "Great, Ill text you mine..." and text her right there. then ask her if she got it once it rings inside her clutch/purse. a bit aggressive, but kills the wrong number situation.
    Reality is the Ultimate Role-Playing Game

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    Default Re: what is the deal with numbers?

    I don't have a problem getting real numbers, my sticking point is dates.

    I have to disagree with you on that process though, if she gives you the wrong number-she's rejecting you; so checking the number right there will only make it akward for both of you.

    Thanks for the advice though

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    Default Re: what is the deal with numbers?

    Breakup with the hairstylist finally (2 years later), finally over the Ex-GF (2 years ago), and the last EX-GF was a big blowout (HB10) but I am still juggling these broads (new ones). Not much went down on St Paddys (not due to my performance but weak turnout). But I learned a few things recently.

    Current 3 girl rotation

    1. Respond to chilling (not dating, hooking up or hanging out)
    2. Respond to relationships

    My ex-GF's friend hit me up late last night saying some wild stuff so we were sexting today. She told me she was wet. The other one (Tinder chick) only talks to me when I am myself, talk about us in a relationship or something semi-platonic.

    So so it used to be getting numbers and numbers and dates. But now these women want more they want relationships. They want to chill. The "hanging out" gets bypassed and oh they have been asking me out lately. So it's really in reverse but if I do hookup with my ex-GF's friend it will be hooking up for a relationship. Girls don't want just sex anymore they want sex that leads somewhere
    When you let go of your feelings you can really then embrace your surroundings
    Love is a game that's why I don't worry about it anymore. When you let go of your feelings you find your meaning.
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    Default Re: what is the deal with numbers?

    That's why you've been getting flaky numbers but these women keep telling me they are tired of dates and hookups. But they all universally resonate with the relationship. Sometimes I am direct and say "You want a relationship" "you're looking for me to commit" teasing but this it seems is the only survival method.

    Seeding a relationship is what they want, I've tried finding sluts never found a one. But chicks 99% want to be in a relationship. If you can't realize this prior to your opener and you are playing chicks you won't understand. The Tinder chick told me numerous times I am not playing her and she can be the only girl for me, but my golden rule is until they put out I can have as many as I want. Unless I am living with a chick I am good.

    The reason I was sexting that girl is because I already know and we almost hooked up while I was with my ex. To further prove this she said she wants me to move closer to her (see already planning ahead) so it is because she wants a relationship with me. Because she has a good body that's why I keep her around but sh!t is getting serious. I don't talk to women like I used to. I know it is relationship based talk. It is when you realize that the date won't matter. Because my other new girl asked me to chill which leads me strait to sex! Potentially. Less BS. So we are planning on me going down to see her. The way it is (strait to chill/sex) I do have to kinda wait for the invite and keep the convos and banter going

    Let's do a for instance

    The woman I am sexting just now said "I'm terrible" in a provocative sort of way. I'm letting her have it big time and told her I was going to wrestle her to the ground which I meant sexually and she said

    WELO ☔️

    Which I seen this type of "thirsty" behavior so I interpreted WELO as "wet down low" and said "You'll be dry for days" She was very happy to hear that started blowing me up.


    But but the Tinder chick is all relationship stuff what I am doing that day. Etc. She said "this is not about sex!" But i never brought it up just saw it on her profile and she said don't dare try to hookup with me. But both are relationship based. I know this because my "number and dating" to =girlfriend no longer works. Now it's relationship stuff from the get go, partying, or chilling. When you say hangout, ask a girl out it is turning them off because it is so common. But when I am asking them to chill, party, or have a relationship that seems to be the sweet spot. Even on the approach this is important because when you close you are asking for the number to chill or party together. Been working wonders lately. Chicks even joke that dating is a thing of the past get with the times they say.

    So instead of hangout, dating, and hookup
    Try Chill, Party, and Realtionship.

    I told old the bartender last night we should "party together sometime" to which she said write down your number.
    The ex-GF's friend asked me to chill late last night so we've talking ever since and sexting. But we are planning on chilling.
    The Tinder chick we talk relationship stuff.

    So different stuff for different girls but HB's schooled me big time last year saying when I said lets go out, "I'm not into the dating scene, hookup scene, etc."

    But since I have been going with the flow it's more about chilling, partying than dating anymore.
    When you let go of your feelings you can really then embrace your surroundings
    Love is a game that's why I don't worry about it anymore. When you let go of your feelings you find your meaning.
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