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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Hi Hands

    Thanks for replying, I can empathise with that as it happened to me too often for my own liking.

    If it were an ideal World, we would have a cell phone full of numbers, so we could simply let him have her and move on to the next one, like many PUA's advise you do.

    But from a Personal view point when you fall in love with a girl, or at least develop feelings for her, more often than not you start to wonder if maybe you're doing something wrong and in trying to correct that, end up in a situation where you then start putting pressure on yourself.

    But I once had a girl as a friend who I didn't fancy in the least, we were just 'mates' nothing more and one night over a bottle of Wine She started to tell me some secrets, that I have never forgotton.

    (1) Girls just love to flirt with Guys, as they constantly seek reassurance that they've still got it.

    (2) They love to be the centre of attention.

    (3) They love to be daring and naughty.

    (4) Forbidden Fruit is the Sweetest

    (5) They get bored very easily and as such don't want to stand around, watching you fix up your Car, unless they can chat your Mates up, while you are doing that.

    (6) Given the chance they would make out 24/7

    (7) A Fat Wallet and or Flash Car can really help to make you better looking, as it helps to confer a lot higher status on them.

    Whether or not you agree with that is entirely up to you but there's a ring of Truth in some of it.

    So while you're paying all the Bills (for going out etc) and doing all the hard work of keeping her entertained, over time your efforts start to 'Flat Line' which is when the Predator, then seizes his chance to present himself to her as a guy who is new and exciting.

    She won't see him that often as he dates other girls which only serves to make him more attractive but will turn up at her house unannounced to lend her a Video that they were talking about, on one of those nights when you don't see her and as he is a 'Mate' of yours then obviously you won't mind if they go out for a drink, after which who knows what might happen?

    And then Girls start to wonder, why we are scared of commitment and won't Marry them.

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Alot of this is in your head man. So much of PUA is about controlling yourself, which means not letting yourself fall for that single girl in the first place. Its called one-itis, or catching the feels. In this state you have no control over your own frame and so you're chasing, and the guy that you loath is controlling your situation. For me there is a difference between PUA, and manipulation. PUA you are creating attraction, and leading, and controlling the frame, and LETTING your target come to you. Manipulation is tricking a person into doing something they don't want, and bending them to your will, against their will. When you lose your frame, and chase that desperation pushes you to want to manipulate your object of desire into coming back. Alot of what you're saying sounds like you've already lost control and now you're trying to find ways to regain it. I'm suggesting you don't lose control in the first place, and when people here tell you to let it go, its because it takes soo much time and energy to stop a sinking ship, or you could just board another, and time is all we really have. I've wasted eight years of my life, and countless pussy trying to get out of a girl's friend zone, and the best day of those eight years came when I told her that she was a horrible person, and hung up the phone. Its late and I'm rambling, so take from that what you can man.

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Hi Lifestylebible

    Some of us are Extroverts, which does sound like yourself and Guys like you are fun to be around and get the Girls, while some of us are Introverts that don't have it so easy.

    Its not their fault its down to their upbringing, where according to phycologists if you have had years of Conditioning then the chances are its going to be difficult to change.

    Which is music to the ears of any Predator, as their Girls are ripe for the 'plucking' where the way they deal with an Introvert, is to try and take him out of his 'Comfort Zone'

    Getting his girl to join him Singing Karioke in a Bar, which he'll really hate to do as he feels too self concious.

    Fooling around with her in the Pool

    Playing games involving taking your Clothes off

    Or any sort of Activity, that the Predator knows is going to have him feeling very uncomfortable, while knowing that his Girl is up for it, in other words he'll often try to humiliate you right in front of her, at which point She'll hopefully lose all respect for her guy.

    Some of these Guys don't have 'Wingmen' as they are very normal guys out there on their own, trying to have a relationship with a Girl and do not see themselves as PUA's

    They are one Girl at a time Guys, who are just trying to make it all work.

    In answer to your Question 'Yes!' it has happened to me and I have had guys befriend me just to get their hands on my Girl and 'Yes!' I've even had them call around her house when I'm not there.

    And while I've developed a Stratergy for dealing with these Punks, if I were to reveal that now then it might well influence what others may want to say and so I'll hold that back for the time being.

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Hi Tyrone

    Thanks for replying but I cannot agree!

    It's really down to lots of luck to pick the right Woman first time and you don't ditch a Predator, as he is the one who goes hunting not just for the girl he took but also for any fresh meat that he sees on your arm.

    He only cares about himself and your girl is just another knotch on his Bed Post, after which he will probably ditch her and move on to your new 'squeeze'

    And while your girl might have regrets, there will always be a place in her heart for 'Bad Boys'

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone1991 View Post
    Vengence is the best motivation, use it to become the most desirable man on the earth.
    If only life were that Simple but I have developed a statergy, that I will reveal in due course.

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Looking forward to reading it, If you want people to review it first, get some opinions. There a few guys that are willing to glance over it.

    Just use the private message function.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hands View Post
    You know this thread just made me realize that I have trust issues with men, which is probably why I've ever only had one guy friend whom I considered close enough to be a wing. Welp, more things to fix.
    Hi Hands

    I have a best Mate and We are always hanging out together but when it comes to Women, neither one of us ever Trusts the other because although we're very different, we are both attractive to Women in very different ways.

    He has the 'Bad Boy' image that Women really go for while I've got those 'come to bed eyes' and we've had situations where the Woman doesn't know which one to choose.

    Because together we can give her, the Best of both Worlds.

    He's a real Control freak and is terrified I'll steal his girl but he's also an Ace Predator, who wouldn't hesitate to hit on mine.

    We've really tried to talk this through and even tried to promise to keep our hands off!

    But so far we haven't succeeded, he doesn't trust me and I don't trust him and as we live in different Towns, though not that far away, whenever he comes over, he never brings his current girlfriend and I never show him mine.

    In an ideal World we would share them between us but he won't go for that one either.

    Its a Crazy situation because as Mates we are so Compatible and just like two peas in a pod.

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    I think you're lying to your self man, with out trust there is no friendship. You might like this guy, but he isn't your friend. For good or for ill hes in your life, and if you enjoy his company the better for it, but I would recatagorize him as a friendly competition. This may just be a habit of mine to catagorize everything, and everybody in my life, it helps me decide how to deal with them, and the amount of trust, and attention they need.
    I'm also interested in seeing your strategy man.

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Understand totally what you mean. I definitely started as an introvert, but only because I didn't think people wanted to hear me. Forcing myself to talk to others has caused me to become much more extroverted, though it's easuser to go back to introversion.

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hands View Post
    I think you're lying to your self man, with out trust there is no friendship. You might like this guy, but he isn't your friend. For good or for ill hes in your life, and if you enjoy his company the better for it, but I would recatagorize him as a friendly competition. This may just be a habit of mine to catagorize everything, and everybody in my life, it helps me decide how to deal with them, and the amount of trust, and attention they need.
    I'm also interested in seeing your strategy man.
    Hi Hands

    We get along great but this Guy is a Serial Liar!

    He is so full of BS that he really ought to have his own waste disposal Licence!

    But I know exactly what he's like and can see right through him but I am the Thinker and Schemer and he is well aware that I am well ahead of his game, so I guess you could say that we sort of have a grudging respect for each other.

    We are so compatible that we are like a couple of Brothers, so I think its a clash of ego's at the end of the day, where neither of us would want to lose to the other.

    And given the chance he'd 'Ball my girlfriend, for the hell of it, to be one up.

    Its pretty Childish really and I wish he wasn't like that, as I am more of a giver than a taker but having said that I would rather lose a girlfriend to anyone else in the World except for him and he is the same.

    But when the Winds in the right direction we are Awesome! and really stitched up this AMOG, like you would not believe, as me and my Mate have a sort of really Telepathic understanding and know what each other is thinking, without saying a word.

    We opened a set with a couple of girls, who were in a group, when this 'Cocky AMOG' tried to muscle in, so we wasted no time in telling him it was his turn to buy the drinks.

    Not just for the 4 of us but everyone in the Set and while he went to get them we FO with the 2 Hot Girls and left him to pick up the Tab, for all the other Apples we left laying on the ground we didn't fancy.

    Needless to say he has never come near us again!

    Can't wait to reveal my Strategy, as it is kind of ingenious and as far as I know has never been tried before.

    But first I want to get around to try and answer everyone who has taken the trouble to reply, even if its just to give them a 'Thanks'


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