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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Quote Originally Posted by lifestylebible View Post
    This is when "game" gets deep. The guys who stick around past "which pickup line do I use" and actually learn to be awesome with women begin to realize this early on. Game makes you reflect on some deep shit that has happened/is happening in your life, and you have to decide to change yourself. All those deep psychological complexes begin to come out, and you finally see the light.

    This is when game becomes the most important thing you ever do in your entire life. I know it has been for me and many others man, keep pushing forward! There are badass fucking wings out there that you know you can trust. In fact I trust guys who have learned game much more than naturals. Find a good wing on the forums or one in person who is willing to start learning pickup.

    I'll be in Tampa if you need one!
    Cheers Bro

    Support from guys just like Yourself, together with Hands and Tyrone, is really worth its weight in Gold, as it forces a person to look at stuff and their game from a totally different Angle.

    And although I have a Stratergy for dealing with Predators, which is quite unusual and works well enough for me (which I will reveal to see what you think)

    I now realize I've been running away, when really I should have been thinking, 'Do you know what I don't give a $%#$ if you want to go with a Predator because you just love the attention' Then I can replace you in a Heartbeat!

    And one of the reasons I'm thinking that way, is that tonight I pulled a Hot Girl, that walked past the end of my driveway.

    I was outside just closing the gate and as soon as She saw me She smiled, so I just said 'Hi lovely evening' and we spent the next 10 minutes talking about the Weather.

    Then I said 'don't find this creepy' but I really have to tell you that you have the most amazing hair that I have ever seen.

    She said 'No I don't mind at all' thank you for the Compliment, so I said well in that case why don't we go for a drink?

    She said Ok why not, so that's what we did and we both had a great time together.

    She's a Classy little high heeled chick who I have seen around my Town on her own before and She doesn't seem to come across as an attention seeker but this was only our first date so who knows.

    But I hope that it won't be our last one, as She does look a bit special and this time will be paying a lot more attention than usual, to the way that She reacts when other guys hit on her, as they surely will.

    Got home too late tonight to try and explain the Stratergy I have been using, I'm off to bed.

    So tell ya later.

    It really was that easy and my game was being ruined by letting all these Predators mess with my head.

    Sometimes it really pays not to over think things

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    I have heard what that predator does called the Straw Man. The "Predator" builds up the boyfriend to the girl. Wow, you are great. Your boyfriend must be fantastic. Attentive, takes you places, etc. The idea is to build up the boyfriend so much, the reality will look lame. The the girl will tear him down.

    I have no idea how to DEFEND against a Predator, other than to just be yourself. But if he screws you out of a girlfriend, I just told you how to return the favor.

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Quote Originally Posted by LA.OC.Skater View Post
    I have heard what that predator does called the Straw Man. The "Predator" builds up the boyfriend to the girl. Wow, you are great. Your boyfriend must be fantastic. Attentive, takes you places, etc. The idea is to build up the boyfriend so much, the reality will look lame. The the girl will tear him down.

    I have no idea how to DEFEND against a Predator, other than to just be yourself. But if he screws you out of a girlfriend, I just told you how to return the favor.
    Hi OC

    There is an even better one than that, which is another clever trick that the Predator pulls from his Toolbox and this is one that's guaranteed to strike terror into the heart of any possessive, underconfident dude.

    And just in case you were wondering, I've had it used on me and it's a relationship killer if ever there was one, which left me in pieces for sometime after that.

    Where like any good Predator, who is cosying up to your girl, he will wait for the perfect moment to strike, which is when the Boyfriend has run out of ideas on how to keep his Girlfriend stimulated and waits for the Flames of passion to die down.

    At which point the Boyfriend is under enourmous pressure to come up with something exciting and new and is clearly feeling in danger of turning into 'The Bore-Friend' in her eyes.

    So now step forward The Predator, who has wormed his way into your life and has cleverly established himself as a best friend to you both, although of course its only 'Her' he's after but he still needs you to pay those 'Relationship Bills' So that he doesn't have to.

    Which leaves you in the role of Her safe haven, as well as being the 'Mothership' She can Flirt from, leaving him with absolutely no responsibility, to her whatsoever. (That's 'Your' Job)

    And so the next time that they meet when he calls round to see her without you being there, he has a big surprise for her that will really make her brighten up.

    Where he tells her he is going to a 'Dinner Dance' and because of someone that he knows, he's managed to get the last Two Tickets left!

    One for Her and the other one for her Boyfriend and they are only $50 each! but if her Boyfriend can't afford it, then you can have the Two Tickets on him and he will pay for you both.

    (At this point he's taking Control, arranging something Exciting for Her and making Her Boyfriend look small)

    As soon as He's gone She's on the Phone and can't wait to tell the Boyfriend the good news.

    But there is now way the Boyfriend, will let the Predator Pay, or he will lose face to both of them, even though he really can't afford it and that certainly won't include the drinks at the Bar.

    If he tells her he doesn't want her/them to go, then he knows it could cause a big bust up and drive her straight into the Predators Arms, so he feels he doesn't have much choice but go along with it.

    Even worse he now has to pay the Predator the money, rather than going to buy the Tickets himself, which immediately starts to confer an even higher Status on the Predator, who in all probability, is fast becoming a 'Hero' in Her eyes.

    Because of course her Boyfriend should have thought of this himself.

    So when the day of reckoning comes and She slips into that 'Slinky Long Dress' which one of those Two does She really have on her mind? (I will leave you to guess)

    With those who are unfamiliar with the way that these things work, after dinner there is Dancing to a Live Band or a Disco but there is also an Etiquette, that you are expected to follow.

    Where anyone from any Table may ask a Girl to dance and no Girl is expected to refuse (though some have good excuses at the ready)

    So first you would Dance with your Girlfriend and then return to your Table.

    But who did the Predator bring?

    He may have come with his Sister or a long discarded Girlfriend that he just makes use of for these occaisions but as likely as not, he will have come on his own.

    Why Spend $100 when only $50 will do for just one Ticket.

    So the poor little Predator, is sitting at your Table all alone, with no one to Dance with (Ahh Bless!) at which point you may be wondering why he hasn't gone over to one of the other Tables to ask some girl for a Dance.

    At least you may be wondering that, if you happen to have a brain the size of a pea!

    Because there is no way your Girlfriend is going to allow your Predator Friend (aka Her Hero) who arranged this fun night out, to sit there having a really miserable time all on his own.

    And so of course She is going to ask him to Dance, which guess what! now leaves you on your own.

    So what do you do now?

    Sit there staring at them having a good time, taking continuous sips of your drink to give you something to do until they return.

    (there is nothing in the rules to say they can only have one dance)

    Or do you go out on a limb and ask another Girl?

    Its a very risky option, as suppose She just makes a polite excuse and says no.

    Suppose you then ask someone else and She also turns you down.

    Then you will look the biggest pillock on the Planet.

    But if one said yes, then it gives your Girl a very good excuse to keep on Dancing.

    In other words you'll be dammed if you do and also dammed if you don't.

    Although which ever way it happens to go you will be on a loser, as you watch your Predator Friend, Smootching the night away with your Girl and running his hands all over her, as he feels up her ass through that long slinky dress She is wearing.

    And just in case I forget to mention it, Flirting is expected and supposed to be allowed at such events, as too is a bit of a peck on the Cheek or more if no one is looking, which of course you are.

    Any objection will make you look weak, which won't matter much as by now your relationships over and you just handed over at least $100 just for that.

    Its also totally pointless having a great big row when you get home, as in her eyes you are just too possessive and shouldn't be complaining about them having just a little bit of innocent fun, which no doubt according to her you could have just joined in with.

    RIP Dude, its over! The Predator has Won!

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    The only solution is to be polyamorous and only have AFC's for friends. Wing men meet only at a venue, or hang with each other with no women involved.

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Hi OC

    This is my Solution and although it isn't perfect, it seems to work for me although I'm always open to ideas.

    It would be very wrong of me to go and Tar all Girls with the same Brush, as I've met some very loyal ones who would go and show a Predator the door.

    The only problem being that some of them can be a bit predictable and boring, where a Flirt is much more exciting as long as She's Flirting with me!

    The only downside being that She attracts fellas like Flies, so if you enjoy a relationship that does have a bit of an edge, then a really naughty little Flirt is the type to go for, as you will have more Fun than you can handle.

    But they are very often addicted to attention like a drug and in the event they can't get that from you, then trust me when I tell you that if you don't keep them on their toes then they will look else where.

    And as they like to go out and have Fun, then you can be under pressure to come up with new ideas to keep her interested, or her interest in you will then start to wane pretty quickly, at which point the Predator steps in.

    Using you as his best Mate in order to get to your Girl while you are paying all the Bills for all the normal relationship stuff like Clubbing, Meals out and Drinks, which can very easily end up costing a fortune.

    If you have got enough energy left to go out to work, as these kind of Girls love making out 7 days a Week! and even I can't do that! LOL!

    So putting it in a Nutshell Familiarity Breeds Contentment, very, very quickly with this Type of Girl, which makes them very easy meat for a Predator.

    But as more often than not you are going to find that She is just so Sexy and Attractive, that you will be reluctant to Trade her in for a much more loyal and steady girl.

    So in other words you 'Want your cake and eat it' we all do!

    So here's how I go about that.

    In all probability a Fun loving Party Girl may not be loyal and faithfull, so that is one thing that you may have to learn to accept and so in order to counter that, I also think its fair that I can be a little bit 'economical with the truth' so I tell her I live with my Parents, who don't like me bringing Girls home.

    And that as I live quite a long way from Her, I won't be able to see Her as often as I would like.

    Not being always available, is one of those things, that helps to keep a Relationship fresh and exciting, as She will always be looking forward to meeting up with me.

    (regardless of what She gets up to, when I'm not there) That may not suit everyone but it may be something that you have to learn to accept.

    She will more than likely just hang with her Friends but She'WILL' be thinking about you and wishing you were there and if She has the odd One night stand, my attitude is so what as I am probably doing just the same.

    The very big difference being that I haven't been conned by a Predator who has used my Friendship to steal her away from me.

    So thinking about it 'Out of the Box' I've turned it around so that Predator, is none other than me!

    As I've got better things to do than to want to see her every day of the Week, as I like some time on my own and won't put myself under Pressure, as I may have done in the Past, where apart from that there's other Girls to talk to.

    So I hear you asking, where abouts do I live, that so far away that I cannot see her as often as She would like.

    The answer to that is anywhere I choose and I don't even have to move house!

    Because I can Buy a Telephone Number for any place I choose and I wonder how many know that.

    As an extreme Example, depending on what type of number I buy, She might think She's phoning London while I am taking the Call in New York.

    Simply because the Number I give her has the London Code, or if you don't want to be that far away, then She could be dialling a Miami code while you answer the Call in Boston, or anywhere else that you choose.

    Its as Simple as that!

    Even if you live in the Same Town!

    Though most Communication is always done by Text on your Cell Phone.

    You just need that Land Line Number to establish a base, although in all probability you might never use it

    That way you can get on with your life, without constantly being under pressure at her beck and call and are doing her a favour by not being always available and so you are able to keep your relationship Fresh.

    Though if She turns out to be 'The One' and maybe not quite as wild as She seemed then all bets are off.

    As the Number One most important thing, is finding someone who runs at 'Your Speed'

    Which of course also applies to Her.


    The Power in a Relationship always goes to the one who cares the least

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    The Guru I read a lot of, BlackDragon recommends something similar. He is polyamorous and his women know this. That way, he does not have to care too much about one relationship, thereby keeping HIS power. And when a woman starts giving him drama, he stops seeing her. Next. He also recommends seeing a woman only once a week. Be it an hour, a day, or the whole weekend. He is also pretty down on monogamy. Folks just get restless. But one thing I like that really may keep a girl in line is Domination. This requires multiple contacts, usually texts every day. You start controlling what she wears, which underwear she wears, if any. Then you move to orgasm games. Telling her when to arouse herself, and whether she is allowed to cum. This provides a woman with two very powerful things: Near constant arousal, and connection. Yeah, this is some kinky stuff, but with the right woman, it really drives her nuts and keeps her wanting you like crazy.

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Quote Originally Posted by LA.OC.Skater View Post
    The Guru I read a lot of, BlackDragon recommends something similar. He is polyamorous and his women know this. That way, he does not have to care too much about one relationship, thereby keeping HIS power. And when a woman starts giving him drama, he stops seeing her. Next. He also recommends seeing a woman only once a week. Be it an hour, a day, or the whole weekend. He is also pretty down on monogamy. Folks just get restless. But one thing I like that really may keep a girl in line is Domination. This requires multiple contacts, usually texts every day. You start controlling what she wears, which underwear she wears, if any. Then you move to orgasm games. Telling her when to arouse herself, and whether she is allowed to cum. This provides a woman with two very powerful things: Near constant arousal, and connection. Yeah, this is some kinky stuff, but with the right woman, it really drives her nuts and keeps her wanting you like crazy.
    Hi OC

    Having had a number of relationships, one day I stopped to ask myself what exactly was it, that I was looking for, in other words why do I need a Girlfriend.

    As a lot of them are nothing but trouble, who can end up by breaking your heart and costing you a fortune in the process.

    After searching my sould on this I came to the Conclusion, that for me it was really the 'Thrill of the Chase' and the subsequent chance of making out with her.

    The reality is that after 3 months, when you have been together and have done the rounds of restaurants and taken her round all those Craft shops that Women seem to love, the flames of passion then start to die down, as you get to know each other and decide to get on board for the long haul.

    At which point some Women, try and clip your wings, so you are spending all your time with her which is fine by some guys, as that is what they want.

    But some Women have a very low threashold of boredom and may start to Flirt with other guys just to get the attention that a lot of Women always seem to crave.

    Where I for one cannot deny that this has made me jealous and has caused me pain, as most guys if they are honest, hate to see their girlfriend, flirting with anyone else.

    So what I did was similar to revearse engineering.

    What did I want the most and want the least?

    The thing I really wanted most was to have time on my own, as one of my hobbies is rebuilding Cars and trust me when I tell you that no girl wants to watch you doing that, as they will get bored very quickly.

    So I wanted to be selfish and indulge my hobby, without being selfish to anyone else and in that respect I wanted to rule out Marriage, at least for some years.

    And I don't want to be seeing a Girlfriend 7 days a week, so as per your example once a week or at weekends is more than enough for me.

    Because it keeps her out of my hair when I don't want her around, which by default also give us something both of us can look forward to when we hook up.

    Absence makes the heart grow fonder and I am a big believer in that.
    The Power in a Relationship always goes to the one who cares the least

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Reverse engineering would be when she starts to flirt with other guys for attention, you just give her the attention. If you are going to commit give her the attention.

    But we all make this mistake. You have to learn it. It's a balance. She will start a fight for attention most cases before she looks else where. So you can find a fine line. But this is dating girls.

    women however or assertive females tend to be more invested in the future rather then the now. Of course they like attention but there abit more relaxed.

    Ideally you shouldn't be looking for a relationship if your not a man yet, so focus on your inner game and development and normal game, life style and career and when your ready. It will be time when she is ready. I haven't seen any of my friends get married. There relationships last longer each time because they develop but I'm not interested in one for at least 5 years. Knowing me just saying that I will probably be in one in 3 weeks lol
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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