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    Default How do you deal with a Predator?

    If anyone thinks that an AMOG (Alpha Male Other Guy) is bad just wait until you meet a Predator, who is arguably the most dangerous competition you will ever face.

    So for anyone who may not know the way that a Predator works, it goes something like this.

    Let's suppose that maybe you lack a little confidence and as such you maybe don't get lucky that often, in other words you are still learning in the dating game.

    But guess what this time you've cracked it and have just pulled yourself a Hot Girl and up to now things are going great!

    You're taking her out for Trips and Meals and even making out, at which point you may be thinking, 'What could possibly go wrong'

    Well here is where your impossible dream is now about to unravel, as if you haven't got many or indeed any Male Friends, all of that is now about to change.

    As all the guys you hardly know, or maybe just say 'Hi' to, will suddenly crowd around you and want to be your best Mate.

    The only problem being that they don't give a Stuff about you, as its Your Girl they're interested in, where in order to get to know her, they first have to get to know You!

    Is this already ringing some Bells for someone out there?

    They will come up for a chat in the street or buy you a drink in the Bar, as they slowly worm their way in to your life, where they will use every trick in the book, to convince your Girlfriend that He is her Boyfriends best mate.

    So when they see her out on her own, they will stop for a 'friendly chat' and in the event She is going somewhere or is maybe on her way home, then the next thing he says is 'Hey let me give you a lift'

    What could be more innocent than a friendly gesture like that but sooner or later, he will be escalating 'Hey let's grab a Coffee and then I'll run you home'

    And while you may still have the Girl (at least for the time being) its really him that's holding all the Aces.

    As most Girls really love to Flirt as well as enjoy the attention, of any guy that they are still getting to know.

    And that guy is 'Him' it's 'Not You!'

    Best of all from his point of view, he has no responsibility to her whatsoever.

    After all why should he?

    As you are the one who is having to pick up all of those Relationship Bills.

    The expensive Cups of Coffee Latte

    Meals out

    Trips to the Movies/Theatre/Bowling........The list goes on.................

    Where as such it won't be too long before you end up as 'The Mothership' which She can Flirt from

    At which point you understandably, start to feel under pressure and insecurity starts setting in and begins to eat your Confidence away.

    Are you entertaining enough to keep her interested?

    Are you making out enough to keep her satisfied?

    Why does She always seem so pleased to see him?

    Why did She invite him in for Coffee when you weren't there?

    So having nicely played himself in, then 'He ups his Game'

    Inviting you both to a Party or a Barbecue on a night when he knows you can't make it.

    But 'Hey you won't mind if 'Jenny' goes and don't worry I'll see She gets to bed on time!

    Or he gets two Concert Tickets for her Favourite Band and he was going to take his Own Girlfriend but She has fallen sick and cannot go.

    So since the Ticket is already paid for, it would be a real shame to waste it, so you won't mind if I take 'Jenny'? I'll see that She gets home on time.

    'Yeah Right!'

    There are 101 Scenarios but I'm sure that you get the idea, as a step at a time he gradually starts to take your Girlfriend over, having lots of fun with her while you are paying the bills and end up turning yourself into the 'Bore Friend' as She doesn't see him as often as She sees you.

    Where any objection that you raise is unfortunately going to label you as Controlling and over possessive and is sure to bring out that well worn response.

    'Hey Bro, what's the matter' don't you trust her?

    Which of course he'll say in front of her.

    After a couple of glasses of Wine and under the right circumstances, anything can happen and you know it but worse of all She's having fun with another guy, that isn't you!

    And one mistake on your part could be all it takes, to have her running straight into his arms.

    I've been there myself and I've suffered, to the point where I've been torn apart and suffered all the heartache and all the insecurity that goes along with that, especially if you find it hard to find someone to easily replace her.

    And so as a point of discussion, as this is no doubt something that affects a lot of Guys.

    So without resorting to Physical means.

    How would you handle a Predator?

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Growing up I had a 'friend' who falls into this category, the guy is just a POS, his mother was basicly my care taker since I had home troubles, so I would bring girls over his house to hang out, and he would take dibs, since I depended on his mother I turned the other cheek, and he got to a few of my girl friends. I got married later, and brought my wife home to meet his mother, who was basically my mother, we had to coordinate plans so he asked for her number, and later some how got her email. I lived out of state, when my wife and I got home, she told me he was all over her when I wasn't around, and later when he tried to write, or text her, she would show me the messages. Its been six years to this day he still denies it. This is more of an emotional rant...this post opened up an old wound.

    I learned to keep my girl friends, and male friends apart after this. I'm still very aggressive to other Alphas, or any guy whom I feel is infringing on my territory. I've learned a different approach from this site and have applied it to my own game with some success: Don't give a fuck about him, and focus on your game with her. You just have to beat him at his own game, and let her come to you. If she becomes more attracted to him, its because you've become lax, and left an opening. Signs of boredom are exactly what any PUA looks for when targeting a girl in a relationship, so don't let it happen.

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    1- Did this/is this currently happen(ing) to you?

    2- A good wingman knows how to flirt with your girl without pulling any stupid moves. In fact my best wingman flirts with my girl while I am in the other room and it's totally fine. I trust him, he trusts me. If you have this dynamic going on it's cool because it pumps the girls state up and keeps the vibe flowing, don't assume too quickly there are other implications.

    ALL THAT BEING SAID- If he is for real, like for real pulling moves on your girl, and claims to be your wingman... be ready to take this step.

    3- You have to grow some balls. Take this dude aside, take him outside if you are in an environment with her. I have had this same thing happen to me recently with a "bro" who I had the chance to do this to his girl, decided not to go for it (despite her literally taking her clothes off on my bed) because he was my "best pal". 2 weeks later he did what you described, except he actually got with her. I found out at his party. First reaction of mine was to knock his front teeth out.. just because we did everything together for years and even talked about this being one big rule. I took a breath, told him to "follow me outside let's light a smoke real quick, I gotta talk to you".
    Drop the bomb right there. No pussyfooting around with this. If he has made out with her, state it. "I heard you made out with my girl?" works just fine, or simply "why are you trying to take my girl from me?" and don't say anything after, unless you are repeating it. If he says "what?" say it again, more seriously. Let him try to justify/deny/whatever the shit he is about to say to you. If he denies it, you simply tell him straight up to leave and never talk to you again. If he apologizes/justifies/something else which is half bullshit, tell him he needs to stop the bullshit, if he flirts with her again you will slap the fuck out of him on the spot. And be very serious. Be ready to slap the fuck out of him at some point if you are going to let him around your girl again.

    I am usually really fun and loose, but this is one of those things that gets to me man. You gotta get yourself a better number two... don't even talk to that dude anymore is the best option. A real good wingman wouldn't step over that line... though it is natural for them to be flirty with her and you be flirty with their girls.

    All that being said, do not put much blame on the girl. If you get mad at her for what she did and what not that is beta shit. You gotta be the man she wants to be with.

    Pet peeve when a fucker tries to ninja steal my woman haha!
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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    How would you handle a Predator?

    Pick the right woman would be a great start. Ditch the friend as he doesn't even cover the definition of a friend. Leave them two to there own demise and be happy you dodged that bullet and he copt it for you. There will always be someone more interesting.

    You will become better and more masculine and more interesting and better qualities.... She will be watching and soon you will be the guy wants she gets bored of him and you have more to offer and her eyes are locked on you. At this point tell her " LOL im way to good for you." because she is a piece of shit, so is he and there are better women out there. Better mates out there and you will get to a point were there is no competition so this isn't a problem.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Vengence is the best motivation, use it to become the most desirable man on the earth.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Tyrone is right,

    Bottom line-

    He isn't your friend
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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    You know this thread just made me realize that I have trust issues with men, which is probably why I've ever only had one guy friend whom I considered close enough to be a wing. Welp, more things to fix.

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    This is when "game" gets deep. The guys who stick around past "which pickup line do I use" and actually learn to be awesome with women begin to realize this early on. Game makes you reflect on some deep shit that has happened/is happening in your life, and you have to decide to change yourself. All those deep psychological complexes begin to come out, and you finally see the light.

    This is when game becomes the most important thing you ever do in your entire life. I know it has been for me and many others man, keep pushing forward! There are badass fucking wings out there that you know you can trust. In fact I trust guys who have learned game much more than naturals. Find a good wing on the forums or one in person who is willing to start learning pickup.

    I'll be in Tampa if you need one!
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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    Lifestyle is correct.

    You will learn alot of things on here to improve. You will filter which ones are helpful & not depending on your personality and Style. (What one you are comfortable enough to try). These Techniques that you try, Some will be successful, and some wont becuase they seem simple enough but when try'd they just don't get the results or feel right applying them.

    The ones that you will get a response from that is positive you will realize by and IOI or just a result you wanted. You may get an indicator during the night or 2 and it will seem like you have it. Then you will do some thing overly confident but ignorantly which puts her off and you will come to realizations such as " it was going so well" "I almost had it" "what went wrong?"

    This will cause you to analyze your techniques and critically break down how things worked. The successful points which gave you the the IOI's or results you will keep doing until you don't realize you are doing them and they become automatic.

    The parts that didn't being a man you try find a solution yourself. Note: you could go through this a few times until you realize you have to make some improvements. If you find a solution or remember something you read or learn't which may help the situation you will try it as long as you can resist doing the same bad habit but sooner or later that habbit will dissipate with your motivation to pull it off. If that solution isn't identified. You will seek help (go back to the drawing board) by doing research, finding threads that relate and asking the community.

    You will go back to the filtering stage and use the ones you like, go through that clicking stage, assess your results and add it to the knowledge bank until you have a good percentage of this handled.

    The Results:

    Simontaneously your results of success is increasing and you are becoming really confident. THat alone will change your body language and you will appear more desirable. The result of this happening will give you even more. You may get cocky and slip up at this point but that will just put you back in the place of sticking to the techniques. Eventually the Confidence from success wont stop you from using your techniques and will only be combined.

    Making you pretty much good to go with most your targets. Depending on where your training ground is such as clubbing.
    But soon you will see girls in different situations that you like and you know you can get them, just haven't learned the process. You will look at Gym Game, Hired Guns, BF Destroyer Texting, Online, Indirect, Direct and all the other niche situations that you encounter in day to day life and combine that with your current style and personality To either learn and Improve (self taught, Research or Asking) or get the result.

    Sooner or later, Your mind will be so advanced at solving problems and coming up with solutions that after abit of reflection you will be pretty good to self master it. Helping others will become easy and it will also stimulate your mind to see solutions so helping others makes you better. Thats where this forum becomes useful too you at that point.

    Every now and then you will have an odd tricky one but most the time you have the situation handled.

    But this is the best bit:

    You have now trained your mind to observe peoples reactions to you, Peoples Character, Peoples hidden agenda, What you did whether right or wrong, and come up with solutions for that situation. You will either try solutions to solve issues with people or give them the sack if results aren't working. Soon you're family will Adore you, Your work will adore your, Women will adore you, Men will respect and adore you, Relationships will become easier and more enjoyable. Which gives you so much confidence to deal with any situation in life. Thats when you become Alpha...... Your confidence exceeds the fear of any situation because you have it sorted.

    Just from Self Critism, others Critism, Observation & analyzation and your determination to be the best you can be you have achieved this. <<<< ------ Recognising that you realise " I'm a awesome guy" You will see what you have achieved, See what you have experienced and gone through and seen how good to others you have been and realise How much of a valued person you are.

    Thats were it gets fun. You pretty much walk around knowing how great you are and can handle any situation just because your mind is trained in a way that gets results quickly and be able to interpret what you did, didn't do, what may happen if you do this, What wont happen if you dont try and see the results before even trying the technique.

    Thats how you become a Natural. Due to your knowledge of your value, you will become protective and decide what is worth investing in, what isn't. Is she, He, that Job, That Salary worthy of myself? You start controlling your life. Being able to get whatever you want. Women will approach you because just walking normally to you, Is "look at that guy!" to them and they will ask for your number.

    Girls will compete because although there are 200 guys in that room. They haven't established what you have and it all started from a reaction, or a break up or being lonely, or sick of getting the same results, or sick of having bad relationships, or just wanted that chick and you were just motivated enough and realized something had to change. We'll that happened to me. I'm not worried about other guys now.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: How do you deal with a Predator?

    But since you are here dropping your pride and asking, you have it. So it can only get better, Fustrating but better. Enjoy the journey, Until you get to your destination.

    Also be harsh but fair with people. Sugar coating doesn't help anybody. Thats why I link it. but with Logic.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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