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Thread: How to handle my Monday Girl, and Direct Opening

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    Default How to handle my Monday Girl, and Direct Opening

    So last Monday, I had a pretty good night. I indirect opened all of the best women that needed skating help. There is usually competition, as other guys like to do this, but I was on fire. I got ALL the good stuff, and the others were relegated to some really unattractive chunksters. I mean BIG ones. Included in my opens were the highest level girls ever. High End West LA women. A 9 and 8.

    Also there was a woman, single mom, who I met 4 years ago. She is a 6. She got to skating a bit late, but saw me with some of the women I had been helping. She smiled a lot, and I chatted with her casually. At the end of the night, a skater went down bad. A number of people started packing up as it was nearing closing, and the paramedics take a lot of time. So I looked for my Monday girl. I'll call her M. So I go to chit chat, we talk about some skating stuff. Then she asked me a question. So you are coming on Mondays now. Me, Yeah. EVERY Monday. Yeah. I am back to Mondays. (I used to do Mondays at that rink for years, then stopped for 2 years) I noted how curious she was that I was going to be there EVERY Monday.

    Now, before, about 4 years ago, I was in a bad place, and was not looking for a woman. Even then, I could tell she had some interest. Now last week, she sees me helping every hot woman in the place that needed skating help. Now she sees me as a guy "in play". She has definite interest. I am thinking about getting her of the skate floor, talking and kino-ing, and go for a number and kiss close. I am a known item, and she knows I am looking. Thoughts?

    On direct opening. I do a lot of indirect because it is easy, and well, simply the best approach as it is skating, and women often need help. Heck, I even push nicely through "no thank you" and "we're ok" and get them to take my help. But I have become a real pussy on direct. If I am inspired, and have what I feel is a good direct, I do it. But too often I freeze up. Even when I am getting some IOI. My thought is to keep it simple. Even if it is cheesy. Hi, you are so cute. What is your name. Or, Hi you are really pretty. And they would be else, why would I approach them. These are technically not the best directs, but fuck it. I feel like I just have to really bust my cherry on this and do a lot of them to get over the direct anxiety. Now my style is light, fun, flirty. Now if I get a dirty look from a girl, my comeback will be, "oh, you are one of those dirty look kind of girls. Damn, I had you pegged as a Get lost kind of girl". My intention is to get any kind of reaction from her and play with that reaction somehow. I just have to fucking do it. Thoughts?

    Oh crap. And I forgot. I have a younger girl, a little heavy, but good by me, that showed a lot of interest last week also. Maybe I should triangle with her. Start with the young girl, and then go to M. Or back and forth and see which of the two wants it more. Thoughts?

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    Default Re: How to handle my Monday Girl, and Direct Opening

    Hi OC

    Calling her a 'Dirty Look Girl' even if only said in fun, could be taken as an Insult by 'Those who just don't get it' if you know what I mean.

    My all time Favorite Direct Opener, is when I look her straight in the eye and hold her gaze for a moment as I look her up and down and then with a big smile on my face say 'Your much too young for me'

    There are a number of advantages in using it this way.

    (1) Its a great big Compliment to her

    (2) You are disqualifying yourself, which actually makes it very easy to smile, even for those who find smiling a problem.

    (3) She will either then Smile back at you and say nothing (not interested)

    (4) Or She will say do you know how old I am (IOI)

    (5) Or how old are you then (IOI) (You reply by saying) I'm old enough to know a beautiful young woman when I see one (and then smile) I'll take you for a Cup of Coffee later. (Then guage her reaction)

    I know that many PUA's recommend 'The Push Pull' but to me that stuffs 'old hat' especially on a Skating Rink where She can't get away from you if She Starts feeling trapped.

    So my advice in your Situation, is forget all that PUA stuff and just be Charming, Helpful and Polite, so She can relax and feel comfortable.

    And when you help someone you fancy, say I usually charge for this but in your Case I'll make an exception but only if you join me for a Coffee afterwards. (Big Smile from you)

    If She says Yes, then you've cracked it!

    But if She just smiles then don't push it, or you might creep her out.

    You can always Flirt a little more next time.
    The Power in a Relationship always goes to the one who cares the least

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    Default Re: How to handle my Monday Girl, and Direct Opening

    Quote Originally Posted by alphabeta View Post
    Hi OC

    My all time Favorite Direct Opener, is when I look her straight in the eye and hold her gaze for a moment as I look her up and down and then with a big smile on my face say 'Your much too young for me'
    Thanks. That is a good one. Damn. That would have been great for that tiny cute brunette from last Monday. I did a fairly blah little chit chat with her and her friend while we were skating, and was surprised when I got spunky banter from her off the skate floor. There was no IOI at all before I talked to her on the floor. She was just so damned cute. I'll use this at least once tonight. Thanks Bro.

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    Default Re: How to handle my Monday Girl, and Direct Opening

    Good luck Bro

    Its always worked for me, as there are so many good facets to that pick up line.

    Women/Girls are almost always self obsessed with their looks and even the not so hot ones, spend hours in front of the mirror before they go out.

    If no one throws them a Compliment, then they think they have wasted their time but if 'You' do then it will make her day and then She will try even harder to get another one.

    When you are teaching her to Skate and She says how am I doing, say 'If your kissing's as good as your Skating, then we could be here a long time'

    That will get her Blushing and She might come back with something, that really lights the fuse.
    The Power in a Relationship always goes to the one who cares the least

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    Default Re: How to handle my Monday Girl, and Direct Opening

    Son of a bitch. Kind of had a crappy outing. Why do I vary so much from outing to outing?? Well, on the bright side, I did get an ego boost. I was kind of tired when I got there, as I had done a good amount of tree trimming in the afternoon. I did not go out to skate right away. So I putzed around and saw this young couple. The guy could barely stand on skates. The girl was stunning. Very beautiful, Armenian or possible Persian. Cute couple. So I decide to help the guy. I put in a good amount of work with him, and he needed it. No big for me, I was tired. There would be plenty of time for me to skate. So I cut him loose and go skate. Then just before backward skate, she comes up to me and asks about backward skating. I show her how to start, and she introduces herself to me. I tell her there will be a beginning backward skate soon. She says she wants me to show her then. The cool part was, another dude sees her and strikes up a convo. He offers to show her backward, but she says, no, Marty will show me. LOL Minor score. So I did the beginning backward with her. She was learning fast. We'd chit chat and skate together off and on the rest of the night. So that was my ego boost in the eyes of the onlookers. Last week, I was with those two high end WLA women, and a couple of hot babes. This week, the cutest girl in the room.

    Now, where I SUCKED was direct approaches. Did not do ONE. Oh, and my two target women were not there. That kind of threw me off. I was kind of hyped up for that. But then there is this other woman. Brooke. Maybe 40, but quite attractive. I stopped by to chat, but I did not Kino, and the convo was kind of flat. FUCK. She is actually QUITE attractive. And while she only had black jeans, a kind of thinnish white t-shirt and a black bra, she did seem to be made up in the face. I so need to make a move on her. And not a lame convo. So, I kind of LUCKED into a little good. My good deed for the boyfriend earned me points with the girlfriend. But otherwise, I was a pussy. Fuck.

    On the bright side, that girl says she wants to come back. And I believe her. She was a pretty assertive girl. I would not move on her, as I see a good connection with the bf. But I am in good with them. The girl is hot. She likely has some hot friends that she will eventually bring along. So... my good deed may pay some dividends.

    But that still does not excuse my pussy performance. Ugh.

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    Default Re: How to handle my Monday Girl, and Direct Opening

    Hi Bro

    Don't beat yourself up, nothing works well when you're tired and when you are tired you try too hard and then things start falling apart.

    It looks like you spend half your life surrounded by hot babes, so no need to rush just wait till you're feeling on point and then it will flow.

    Always awkward when you have the BF hanging around, so try not giving him a vibe that you are after her and if She really fancies you the chances are She will leave him at home/work and turn up with some hot friends.

    Girls are just like buses and another one will be along in a minute.
    The Power in a Relationship always goes to the one who cares the least

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    Default Re: How to handle my Monday Girl, and Direct Opening

    Thanks man. I beat myself up a for a while, by choice. Then I "I don't give a shit" it. It happened, it is over..... NEXT.

    But my standard practice of catch and release worked a charm this time. In that respect, I was Alpha. It felt good when she approached for help, and even better when she beat me to the punch to introduce herself. And she JUST did beat me. Like by a second. I was just about to ask her name. LOL Her approaching me kicked my confidence with her way up. I was helpful, classy, and not clingy, so I knew when she came around, I was in a good spot.

    Oddly, I have done great with boyfriends around. Friday, I helped over a dozen people. I was helping a few, other folks saw this, and I was surrounded, LOL. I ended up, and I think it was more her choice than mine, helping this very cute Latina. I later found out she was only 17. But after taking her around for a few laps, her brother came around with a protective look on his face. I had to be careful then, as she had a habit of jerking her hand and pulling my hand right into her left boob. Fine by me when the brother was not there. Not so much when he was there. 17....are you serious, LOL.

    The directs...SMH. And I had just got an email about approach anxiety. It basically said, we create anxiety by imagining a bad outcome. It recommended just looking at girls and imagining a good, or GREAT outcome. I kept trying to do that. But I was out of gas. I left 20 minutes early, which I typically never do. But, that night is done. Next.


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