[I find it amusing how you seem to be making things difficult for yourself.]
No, not at all. If anything I am trying to find a simple way to do things. Going out of my way to be friends with everyone can be a lot of work and that would be making things difficult for myself. Not to mention the time it takes when that could be spent on other things(like talking to hot women). Hey, we are all entitled to our opinion though.
["I'm a mad scientist. I have no friends" will NEVER result in her thinking, "Oh wow. I am so gonna fuck this guy now!"]
I'm not going to mention names but a very well known PUA said something similar to a target and there was no resistance from the target. It's about how you frame it. If you say it in a serious way no but if you make it obvious you are joking then that is a different story. Some women actually don't care if you have friends or not as long as you are cool. I have seen footage of puas sarge successfully solo. You make it seem like all women are super shallow and only judge you by the number of friends you have. I know for a fact that is not the case. I'm an older guy and the older you get the tougher it is to make friends. I'm certainly not going to change my ways now. Sure, I'll be social but I'm not going to go out of my way and do all the hard work to make new friends just to get laid. Not going to happen. I'm not the only one on here who feels that way either. I don't think friends equals p****y no matter how much you try to tell me otherwise and no matter how much of a self proclaimed expert you think you are.
I have never said you cannot sarge successfully solo.
I said at the beginning that you can dance by yourself, and you can still get girls. That is something I did in the past, and it worked very well.
But I also said in the long run, you are going to face issues. These are issues that can be overcome easily, if you just bothered to put in the work at the beginning.
No resistance from the target now doesn't mean no resistance eventually.
Everybody judges you. It's their way of sizing you up, and it's a survival mechanism. If you think game can escape the boundaries of nature, all the more you will need loads of luck.You make it seem like all women are super shallow and only judge you by the number of friends you have.
I never said all women are super shallow. I did mention that in a closed environment like a club, you are going to judged more than normally, and one of those parameters will include whether you have friends or not.
Then tough luck to you. Adapt and survive, or choose not to adapt, and make things difficult for yourself.I'm an older guy and the older you get the tougher it is to make friends. I'm certainly not going to change my ways now.
Sure, I'll be social but I'm not going to go out of my way and do all the hard work to make new friends just to get laid. Not going to happen. I'm not the only one on here who feels that way either.
People who come into this game, often think that they can stay in their comfort zone and get away with doing the hard work. Unfortunately, that is a nice lil magic pill the marketers love to sell you. People buy into it because of their laziness.
The ones who really push their own limits, they will tell you it's a lot of hard work. And often times, it involves you doing shit that you don't wanna be doing. If you wanna get what you want, be prepared to sacrifice a lot.
I don't think friends equals p****y no matter how much you try to tell me otherwise and no matter how much of a self proclaimed expert you think you are.
You can think whatever you want.
What you wish to believe, may not necessarily be true. As already mentioned, opinions count for nothing in the field, if the results are not there to prove it.
At the end of the day, the results you get is all yours to keep. I have no investment in that. My sole purpose in responding is to help save people's time from experimenting needlessly. If someone wishes to take up my advice, kudos to them for willing to give a stranger's advice a shot.
If not, they will find out for themselves whether their own method works or not. The time they spent figuring this stuff out on their own is way more than the few minutes I spend typing up advice, so absolutely no issues on my end.
And you can think whatever you want too. That's cool that you think you have the final say on everything though. More power to you.
In the end we all have to do what works for us. The bottom line is I'm willing to change and adapt but I don't feel I need to have a ton of friends to do that or be successful with women. Heck, there are some people(expert puas)who say it's better to go out solo. I feel the whole concept of social proof has been over bloated and exaggerated and there's even times when it will hurt you(for example if you have too many pictures of yourself with other women on your online profile).
Also, consider this. Your results are not guaranteed no matter what you do. There is no magic pill that can guarantee you success with women. Even if you have tons of friends and are surrounded by other women you still won't necessarily have better results. You might. You might not. Those friends can actually get in your way of being successful.
If it makes you feel any better(and I'm sure it does because you seem to care about being the expert and knowing more than everyone else) I actually agree that it probably is better to go out with friends but since that's not really an option for me I'm not going to let it prevent me from going out. I could just stay at home and not go out and I have done that and I'm tired of it. So the way I see it is it's better to go out by myself rather than not at all. I'm just being realistic here. At my age going out of my way to make friends is not really an option. Most people around my age are married and not into going out like they used to anyway. Does this mean I can't be social? Of course not. I think you are confusing the two but then again you see what you want to see.
To be honest I'm not even really reading your responses anymore so I could just go around here forever with you. However, to be honest I have other more important things to do. Also, I wanted to talk about dance floor game but you insisted on pulling the conversation in another direction.
Here's the thing. I am standing my ground here. You do what you wand and I'll do what I want. I have nothing more to discuss here.
wow perfect thread. this helped alot!
Hey Jironasaurus, this is great advice here. I agree that dancing for a short while then leading off the dance floor to build comfort is the best start.
In your experience what are the best steps next if your goal is a one night stand?
I've noticed that it's better to begin flirting right away- then building more comfort and then go for the kiss and then eventually the pull.
No flirting/escalation plus rapport equals friend zoned.
So how do you say it? " Do you wanna come home with me?" (Directly)
'' I have drinks at my place, let's go back there"( indirect)
Is it better to be overly sexual from the start to weed out any ladies not in the mood?
I have mixed results in my experience so just curious.
Appreciate the compliment there.
My mentor once said this, and I'll always remember it. It's all about... "fun, trust, and sex".
The dance-floor is where the fun (and a bit of sex if you wanna count the escalation) happens.
Out of it, you want to aim for trust. She may or not may not be looking for sex. If she is, your job is easier... all you have to do is escalate.
If she isn't (and that will be obvious based on whether she accepts your escalation or not), then you wanna work towards building up trust.
Unfortunately, there is no easy way to build trust without showing her who you are. In this case, that would be rapport (and being authentic).
You are right in that no flirting/escalation is not gonna lead you towards the goal of a one night stand. So in between all that trust-building, you still wanna retain the element of fun (i.e. flirting, escalation, humour etc). What comes first does not matter... you can flirt right away, or you can focus on "building comfort". What matters most is... you interweave them all in a natural progression. It's not a linear structure; humans are dynamic, so flow with that.
To answer your second question, I always lead. So, I do not ask if she wants to come home with me. I'll turn that into a statement instead - "Let's head over to my place". This is best said only after you've escalated to making out and more, and it's obvious that going back to your place = sex. Anything less, and she is likely to ask why (unclear intentions on your part).
As for whether it's better to be overly sexual from the start... there's no need to. But you definitely need to be sexual consistently. That will help you weed out those who aren't DTF. Hope that helps!
Great response thanks! I'll use this information tonight