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    Default Do you really need to spend money to get women?

    I keep seeing guys posting this online(on youtube and other places). They absolutely insist you have to spend money to get hot women. Is this really true? Can you get attractive women without spending money on them?

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    Default Re: Do you really need to spend money to get women?

    Firstly the guys telling you this probably bought there woman from Ukraine off her parents for 20k.

    Secondly, if your spending money to have sex that's not Pick up, that's prostitution.

    Thirdly, some woman are called "Money Moles" who only want you and fuck you and date you so you spend on them and you don't even pick them up, the see or smell the money and they come for you and pick you up.

    So the short answer is No, you don't use money to pick up and there never really ever both involved at the same situation.

    So Mail order bride is not PUA
    Prostition is not PUA
    A woman trying to get money and has to deal with you as a slight invonvience to get it is not PUA

    PUA is a series of varies actions that through Psychology & Science are proven to cause a Reaction if applied right. To pick up you require no money, that is like the lowest priority for a PUA especially because as you get quicker and better, there is less closing time between meet and fuck which means less rapier, more attraction, less dates, less money spent. So PU should actually save you money but you sacrifice time and energy instead..... but it's so worth it.

    4 Things Required to become a PUA

    1. Ambition (to constant improve and push limits)
    2. Desire (You got to want it to get it)
    3. Knowledge (this PUA Forum have brewed so much success and there is so much content, can always ask me)
    4. Experience/Application (you just got to go out there and try it, take baby steps and build on them, learn and apply, everything, find what you like, and feels natural, build on it and keep growing, ask anyone here, we got material and heaps of experience)
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: Do you really need to spend money to get women?

    If you're willing to spend significant money on a woman just to get laid, get a hooker. You can't buy real romance. If you are going to spend any significant amount of time sargeing, you will spend a fair amount of money, but that money should be incidental to picking up women, and not spent directly on them. You never want to setup an interaction like you are attempting to buy their affection. It messes up the whole relationship dynamic and also plays directly into their preconceptions of how most guys act, that want to get in their pants.

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    Default Re: Do you really need to spend money to get women?

    Hmmm. Ok, well I could post exactly what this one guy said. I doubt he is on here anyway. He basically said one way or the other you have to spend some money if you want to constantly bang hot women. He didn't go into details or say how much. Spending money on women(regardless of how hot they are and beyond just a few bucks for a drink or whatever)would be more or less the same as going to a prostitute. So I agree with you guys there. However, to say you never have to spend any money at all on them might be a bit unrealistic. There are a group of men who have an online community and absolutely refuse to do that but they take it to the extremes. I see nothing wrong on certain occasions with buying a cup of coffee, a drink or maybe a little bit beyond that(probably not dinner though but maybe popcorn at a movie theater). There obviously are women who take advantage of men and try to get them to spend money on them and they should be avoided at all costs for the most part. However, this guy makes it sound like all hot women are like that though and I started this thread to see if that's really true or not.

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    Default Re: Do you really need to spend money to get women?

    It's not that you can't ever spend money on a woman you are picking up, but there are way more wrong ways than right ways. You never want to fall prey to a shit test, "Why don't you buy me a drink?" You never want her to feel entitled. You never want her to feel like you are setting up a transaction (I'm paying for this, because you are giving me attention). If I've had a productive time with a lady and she's not given me any indication that she expects me to pay for things, I will often pay for things while saying, "I'll take this round, you can get the next one." Here you are setting up that it is quid pro quo. You are also future projecting that there will be a later round. I usually have the lady pay for the next one. If she seriously protests my efforts, I let her pay for hers and pretend like it is no big deal.

    Conversely, if a woman demands or suggests I buy her a drink, I always decline and either tell her I don't buy women drinks but she can buy me one, or I instead tell her if she buys me a drink I'll show her a magic trick or tell her a funny joke.

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    Default Re: Do you really need to spend money to get women?

    [I usually have the lady pay for the next one. If she seriously protests my efforts, I let her pay for hers and pretend like it is no big deal.]

    You mean if after suggesting she get the next round and she refuses you then just pay for your own? Wouldn't you say something like "hey, that's not fair. You are just along for the free ride aren't you?"

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    Default Re: Do you really need to spend money to get women?

    Quote Originally Posted by gunsnglory View Post
    It's not that you can't ever spend money on a woman you are picking up, but there are way more wrong ways than right ways. You never want to fall prey to a shit test, "Why don't you buy me a drink?" You never want her to feel entitled. You never want her to feel like you are setting up a transaction (I'm paying for this, because you are giving me attention). If I've had a productive time with a lady and she's not given me any indication that she expects me to pay for things, I will often pay for things while saying, "I'll take this round, you can get the next one." Here you are setting up that it is quid pro quo. You are also future projecting that there will be a later round. I usually have the lady pay for the next one. If she seriously protests my efforts, I let her pay for hers and pretend like it is no big deal.

    Conversely, if a woman demands or suggests I buy her a drink, I always decline and either tell her I don't buy women drinks but she can buy me one, or I instead tell her if she buys me a drink I'll show her a magic trick or tell her a funny joke.
    Hey Guns, or you can do my favorite, challenge her to a thumb wrestling match to see who pays .... if she accepts make sure to stick your thumb in your mouth and get it all wet .... HAHAHAHA !!!!
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    Default Re: Do you really need to spend money to get women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike413 View Post
    [I usually have the lady pay for the next one. If she seriously protests my efforts, I let her pay for hers and pretend like it is no big deal.]

    You mean if after suggesting she get the next round and she refuses you then just pay for your own? Wouldn't you say something like "hey, that's not fair. You are just along for the free ride aren't you?"
    Sorry. I mean that if I volunteer to get this round, and she declines to let me pay for it, I just drop it and let her pay for hers and don't make a big deal about it, nor do I do the social dance of "No really, I don't mind.". I just say, "Ok" and move on.

    If, on the other hand, she agrees to buy the next round and doesn't, I give her a lot of shit, because that's how equals behave. That's the dynamic I want to setup, not a dynamic where I have lower social status than her and am pursuing her.

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    Default Re: Do you really need to spend money to get women?

    Let's examine this...okay here it is.

    I know who you guys are talking about but he was a poser on here not a PUA and he was always griping about needing money to get hot women.

    Let's get something strait. That guy was not great looking he sent me a pic. And we'll I am great looking. Like it or not looks will help you get women. But this guy was not great looking and so women only saw him for his money. So you can get chicks with looks or if you don't have looks you can get women with money.

    I am a PUA and it's all a complicated process I will not go into here.

    Let's just put it this way. You won't get very far be cheap AF=AFC nor will you get the chick trying to buy her with money=AFC.

    There is a happy medium somewhere. I don't really have money and I get chicks like mad cuz I got game.

    But money is the next level. Here it is I am going to say it.

    You don't need money to get women you need game as we all know.

    But to get the BEST women you need money, and a lot of it!! You can skate by on floozies but on the big kahuna you need EVERY advantage. Let's put it this way.

    I want to marry a stripper.

    Meaning I need lots of money, not because I don't have game.

    But because you need money to talk to a Stripper. More money=more time catch my drift? Some women you need money some you don't just depends...

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    Default Re: Do you really need to spend money to get women?

    Quote Originally Posted by JackSarge View Post
    Let's get something strait. That guy was not great looking he sent me a pic. And we'll I am great looking. Like it or not looks will help you get women. But this guy was not great looking and so women only saw him for his money. So you can get chicks with looks or if you don't have looks you can get women with money.
    Let's start with, "Holy Crap! What a douche!"

    Quote Originally Posted by JackSarge View Post
    I am a PUA and it's all a complicated process I will not go into here.
    Glad you mentioned that. You said it on the internet so it must be true. You must hold all the mysteries of the universe in your palm.

    Quote Originally Posted by JackSarge View Post
    But to get the BEST women you need money, and a lot of it!! You can skate by on floozies but on the big kahuna you need EVERY advantage. Let's put it this way.

    I want to marry a stripper.

    Meaning I need lots of money, not because I don't have game.

    But because you need money to talk to a Stripper. More money=more time catch my drift? Some women you need money some you don't just depends...
    There is just so much wrong here, that I don't even know where to begin.


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