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    Default Need advice....

    Hi,
    I am new to the PickUp game. Recently I have been working this chick and things seemed to be going well. Here's a little background.
    I initially met this girl on FaceBook and friended her. We had a few playful interactions via messages and I told her I'd like to meet her sometime. She responded that she really had a boyfriend (for about 4 months), but that she'd probably see me at a club we both frequent.
    Well, weekend before last I was at an outdoor music event and just kinda working the crowd, When I hear my name being called out. I looked down, and sitting just a few feet in front of me is this girl. I took this opportunity and decided to run with it. I proceeded to sit down directly behind her (we were both sitting on the ground) and made playful conversation for a few minutes. She soon began giving me IOI's and lots of Kino (leaning across my lap to get some (non-existent) thing behind me, etc.
    We spent a total of about an hour on and off that night chatting it up and being playful with some sexual convo going on as well. She told me that she was happy to finally get to meet me and that I was a funny guy. She sent me a message the next day on Facebook basically saying the same things.
    This past weekend I went to the club where we both hang out and about 30 seconds after I walked in the door, I heard my name again, It was her and I went over and sat down beside her and chatted her up for a bit along with some other mutual friends. The previous weekend there was a guy trying to hit on her and he actually told her she was semi-attractive (this didn't sit very well with her). Throughout the week I have been busting on her and saying things about her being semi-atteactive (all in fun and playfully). I get really good responses from her while doing this. I made a joke about the guy that said she was semi-attractive saying that she did have to take into consideration that he was pretty drunk. She agreed, and then I hit her with a neg and said that she should remember that the more a guy drinks, the prettier girls seem. She playfully smacked my shoulder and called me a funny name, but she was smiling the whole time.
    Throughout the evening she would come over to where I was sitting and lean down and put her ams around me from behind and pretend like she had something to tell me (I feel like this was just a reason to be giving me more IOIs and Kino). At one point in the evening, I noticed that she had went to the ladies room and when I saw her coming back, I motioned with my finger for her to come over to where I was (trying to make her jump through a hoop). She immediately walked over and I motioned for her to bend down so I could tell her something (It is a rather small and loud venue). She leaned over and I told her to guess what I just did. She obligingly said What? and I told her "I made you come with one finger". I figured this was either make or break time. After a short pause she said "OMG, You're good. I can't even do that with both hand". I replied back to her that I would teach her how to do it sometime. She laughed and said she was looking forward to it.
    Before she left that night, She made it a point to come over and hug me tightly and say how much fun she had had with me that evening and that she'd see me next weekend. I told her that i wouldn't be there next weekend as I was going to be out of town. She seemed disappointed and then said that she was not going to be there either (hahaha). She left and I hung around for a few more minutes before I left. I would have actually tried to escalate things at this point, but I knew she was sick and probably not up to a roll in the hay at that time.
    Yesterday, I saw where a cool music artist was going to be performing a concert within an hour of where i live and thought this would be a prime opportunity to ask her out. I proceeded to send her a message on Facebook that I had something to tell her that would blow her mind and to call me when she had a chance (yet another hoop for her to jump through). I left my number in the message as well. Within 2 minutes my cell was ringing and guess who it was? I kept playing the cocky-funny thing and told her "WOW, that was fast". She started talking and didn't even bother to ask what the mind blowing information that I had was. Finally after a few minutes of talking, I told her that if she would promise to be a "good girl" and behave, that I might take her to a concert to see this particular artist. She said she didn't really know who it was and after a few reminders she remembered and said "She's hot". I said Yeah, I think so too. She pretended to check her schedule and finally told me that yes, she could go and would love to.
    We talked for a few more minutes and I figured that I should remain in charge of the conversation. So, I said that I had better let her go for now and that I would talk to her soon. She made sure that i had her number and told me to keep in touch.
    I was feeling really good about this whole thing as it is really my first "gaming" experience. This morning, I sent her a text to say "Good Luck" on a test that she had today and to also say that i hoped she was feeling better. Once again, within a couple of minutes she replied. Here is where my dilemma arises. The reply went as follows:

    "Thanks, friend! I appreciate that. I'm not feeling better, but I do have faith I.m gonna live "

    My concern is her use of the word "friend". I would appreciate any and all input you may have. Maybe I am making mountains out of molehills, but i would like to be sure about this.

    Thanks in advance,

    Viper

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    Default Re: Need advice....

    dude i think ur looking into it too much. i mean she has been all over you and u just started texting her. maybe thats just what she says. if anything keep it sexual and she is you get shut down with the whole friend thing. personally i think ur fine and just looking into it too much. i mean u are taking a while to escalate. if u dont work fast u may get LJBF'ed cause ur fun and all that but not giving her what she needs. so start escalating. you showed her ur fun and different. time to take it up a notch!
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    Thanks man, That's what I was kinda thinkin' and hoping for, but just need some confirmation of sorts. I am 46 years old and this little cutie is 31. I am new to this whole PU thing and so far I am having a blast. In all honesty, this is the first girl i have actually had the nads to try it on and it just seems too simple after you put it into action. i guess that's been a lot of my problems all along. Just reading too much into things instead of pushing the limits so to speak. Once again Thanks for the reply and encouraging words.

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    see and there is something else. you guys are older..a lot older :P. so the usual games that go on between us at early 20's dont usually apply. if a 31 year old is showing this much initiative and this much interest your fine. u just need to muster up the balls and go for the kill. start kissing and escalating. or you WILL be friend zoned for sure. i wont forget something AFC adam taught me about the three things all naturals have.

    the three things all naturals have that seems to up there game and make them naturally good with women are....
    -Confidence- DUH
    -Abundance of women in there life- you need to have women in ur life.
    -THE ABILITY TO SEXUALLY ESCALATE- lots of guys have the first two and lack on this third one. when a guy s confident and has women is his life but cant sexually escalate then he is THE FRIEND. the perfect guy for her but that she cant see herself dating cause u failed. start out normally and work your way towards grabbing her by the waist, touching thigh to thigh, stomach to stomach and then even more sexual. you need to turn her on. so obviously if theres cuddlying then theres touching just know your hot spots. the neck, lower back, inside thigh, stomach, waist and all the other ones. all those areas are very sexual and get a girl turned on. so whenever she is kenoing the shit out of you in the club like she did or you hang out and are cuddlying....WORK YOUR KENO!!!
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    Default Re: Need advice....

    Quote Originally Posted by crobinson1 View Post
    -THE ABILITY TO SEXUALLY ESCALATE- lots of guys have the first two and lack on this third one. when a guy s confident and has women is his life but cant sexually escalate then he is THE FRIEND. the perfect guy for her but that she cant see herself dating cause u failed. start out normally and work your way towards grabbing her by the waist, touching thigh to thigh, stomach to stomach and then even more sexual. you need to turn her on. so obviously if theres cuddlying then theres touching just know your hot spots. the neck, lower back, inside thigh, stomach, waist and all the other ones. all those areas are very sexual and get a girl turned on. so whenever she is kenoing the shit out of you in the club like she did or you hang out and are cuddlying....WORK YOUR KENO!!!


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    I'm tryin' to get there man. Just haven't been in the right frame at the right time (guess I'm still learnin'). I do have an update though. Sent here another message with a little animated hand with a "beckoning finger". She absolutely loved it. It no doubt served it's purpose to remind her of the little joke about making her "come" with one finger as well as provided a bit of humor to brighten her day. She has the Flu right now, so a date this week is probably out of the question. Bad thing is that the date we already have set up is still 2 weeks out (Nov. 10th) and I wanna make sure that I can continue building attraction as well as sexual tension in the mean time.

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    Guess i pushed it too far with this one. Saw on FaceBook where she used one of those crazy "What will you be" applications and it said she would be a Surgeon. I thought this would be a good opportunity to have a little playful/sexual texting convo. I sent her a text and said that i had saw that she was gonna be a Surgeon, but I thought she needed practice. Then I put Wanna Play Doctor? This did not set well with her at all and she became offended. I told her that i was only being fun and playful, and that I certainly wasn't meaning to offend her. Don't really think it matters at this point. After the "Come with one finger" thing, I was totally blown away that this would offend her. Oh well, On to the next one I suppose.

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    u can still come back from something like that. just need to not lay it on so thick. one way you can come back is just dont be overapologetic. we are sexual creatures and alphas never apologize for being sexual. we only apologize if it offends them!
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    That is exactly what I did. I apologized for offending, but not for saying something sexual. She may be a bit psycho. According to one of my friends, she's an easy mark and sleeps with pretty much anything. I figured maybe it was just a stigma that had been laid on her, but not so sure now. Why would she suddenly change within minutes about something like that offending her after the finger thing? I am beginning to think that she may actually be BiPolar or something. Something is telling me that this one may not be worth the effort. I could be wrong, but that's what I'm thinkin'. I will se what happens. So far no response to a text or facebook message apologizing for offending her.

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    well unless she responds freeze her out for somewhere from 4 days to a week. and then come back and dont just come in saying ur sorry and shit. just talk like nothing happened. if she asks why ur ignoring it or that she is mad at you, just apologize for offending her and move on. sometimes even giving them the "im sorry for offending you, but i cant really apologize for being sexual" talk and then even maybe bring up that you thought that wasnt too bad since she thought the finger thing was funny. more than likely she will get in her own head and start thinking. ok maybe i am being stupid. she will get over it and bam. i mean you cant really conclude bipolar until something really bad happens. maybe she just wasnt up for it tonight, she has her period(she is on edge and shit cause periods apparently do that :P) or even just pissed off cause someone ruined her mood and she was taking it out on you. so just give it a while if she doesnt respond and then just come back to it
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