hello everyone, im new to the forum but i have been studying and practicing PUA material for 2 years now.
I have this nagging doubt and i would like if anyone could shine some new light on. I meet this girl like 3 years ago we kind of date once but it was awfull mostly because of my insecurity and lack of knoledge at the moment. But yesterday after like 2 years of no seeing each other or talking we encounter in a party. She´s a 7, a little taller than me, arround my age but she has never had a boyfriend or sex. Many had tried many had failed (i know because im friend with her BFF and she told me that once) but i love challenges so i throw myself a it.
The thing is that at first i tried to use negs on her but they didnt work..... but here is the thing is the "HOW" the didnt work thats puzzles me to no end.
Situation: we were all in a bar kind of celebrating the birthday of her BFF and she (the 7, not the BFF) was all the time with her other BFF (a 4) but they both were kind of away of the main group of people.
So we talk a little (i had to talk to both of them) and i throw a neg but she kind of accept it it went something like this:
*Me* (looking at her friend next to her) - Is she mean to you?
*her BFF* - yeah, she threats me badly jajaja
*Me* - Sure she does. Look at you, you are evil woman
*her* - yes i am.
*me* (standing over a table) - wow, this is how must fell being a giant like you, i can see everything.
*her* - yeah im a giant.
it went on like this until we left (me and my wingman) we talked in a park about the situation and he told me "wow man, is like she has full acceptance of her faults".
After trying to figure this girl out we came with an idea and i wanted also to hear your opinion about it
if she has full aceptance of her faults im never gonna build tension with her so my idea is to used neg in things that are faults. For example she´s in kind of tomboy (in a cute way but a tomboy nevertheless) so instead of busting her ball about that im gonna go with something like "well i think you have a nice tomboy act going on but, really you must want to wear pink dresses, and talk all pretty like a barbie :3 "
But the main question i have in this post is why do you think my negs fail? you think they fail because of her friend being there constantly, because we dated once 3 years ago, or because shes a 7 and i normally gun for 9 or 10?
I learned from Deangelo and "The game" from Neil Strauss and i understand they are more suited for 9 or 10. Is there some PUA who teach theory for sevens
Thanks for reading and answering this really throw my game out of the window last night and couldnt sleep thinking where did i miss
BWT, didnt know if this is the correct section to ask since im new to the forum