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Thread: Doubt with a 7

  1. #1
    hako Guest

    Default Doubt with a 7

    hello everyone, im new to the forum but i have been studying and practicing PUA material for 2 years now.

    I have this nagging doubt and i would like if anyone could shine some new light on. I meet this girl like 3 years ago we kind of date once but it was awfull mostly because of my insecurity and lack of knoledge at the moment. But yesterday after like 2 years of no seeing each other or talking we encounter in a party. She´s a 7, a little taller than me, arround my age but she has never had a boyfriend or sex. Many had tried many had failed (i know because im friend with her BFF and she told me that once) but i love challenges so i throw myself a it.
    The thing is that at first i tried to use negs on her but they didnt work..... but here is the thing is the "HOW" the didnt work thats puzzles me to no end.
    Situation: we were all in a bar kind of celebrating the birthday of her BFF and she (the 7, not the BFF) was all the time with her other BFF (a 4) but they both were kind of away of the main group of people.
    So we talk a little (i had to talk to both of them) and i throw a neg but she kind of accept it it went something like this:

    *Me* (looking at her friend next to her) - Is she mean to you?
    *her BFF* - yeah, she threats me badly jajaja
    *Me* - Sure she does. Look at you, you are evil woman
    *her* - yes i am.

    or

    *me* (standing over a table) - wow, this is how must fell being a giant like you, i can see everything.
    *her* - yeah im a giant.

    it went on like this until we left (me and my wingman) we talked in a park about the situation and he told me "wow man, is like she has full acceptance of her faults".
    After trying to figure this girl out we came with an idea and i wanted also to hear your opinion about it

    if she has full aceptance of her faults im never gonna build tension with her so my idea is to used neg in things that are faults. For example she´s in kind of tomboy (in a cute way but a tomboy nevertheless) so instead of busting her ball about that im gonna go with something like "well i think you have a nice tomboy act going on but, really you must want to wear pink dresses, and talk all pretty like a barbie :3 "

    But the main question i have in this post is why do you think my negs fail? you think they fail because of her friend being there constantly, because we dated once 3 years ago, or because shes a 7 and i normally gun for 9 or 10?
    I learned from Deangelo and "The game" from Neil Strauss and i understand they are more suited for 9 or 10. Is there some PUA who teach theory for sevens

    Thanks for reading and answering this really throw my game out of the window last night and couldnt sleep thinking where did i miss

    Bye


    BWT, didnt know if this is the correct section to ask since im new to the forum

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    Default Re: Doubt with a 7

    They fail because she is either;
    -not interested
    -has heard them all before
    -is boooorreeeedd.
    -your doing it wrong

    I have seen this countless times in clubs, and online game

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    Default Re: Doubt with a 7

    Quote Originally Posted by learninglegend View Post
    They fail because she is either;
    -not interested
    -has heard them all before
    -is boooorreeeedd.
    -your doing it wrong

    I have seen this countless times in clubs, and online game
    Thanks , you were right about the wrong part. I was in the shower, of all places, and the PAM five excellente negs for her just struck me. Then when i encounter her in facebook chat i try a couple of those and we flirt for a while.
    Sorry if it seens like a newbie question but normally when i fail a negs i get her harpie face, they ignore me or they leave. She laught everytime but never give room to continue the conversation

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    Default Re: Doubt with a 7

    negs are meant for girls who think there hot sh!t, if there mind set is not "Im better than you" then negs are pretty much pointless negs are attraction killers when your target has low self esteem... instead of negs try push and pull, for example "we are so not gonna get along" thats the push, break eye contact and look away to increase effect... " but I really like .........." thats a pull add small kinos like high fives or hugs to increase the effect
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    Default Re: Doubt with a 7

    dont worry about these minimal issues. look at the bigger picture.

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    Default Re: Doubt with a 7

    double

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    Rippemapart Guest

    Default Re: Doubt with a 7

    if she is aware of her faults .. why are you neging her?

    your soposed to neg girls who think they are high and mighty.

    a neg is not teasing... a neg is ment to reduce her percievd value of her self (from what i can tell)

    from what i have heard,, its best only to use negs on 9's and 10's... or girls who act like they are a 9 or 10...or girls who treat you like you are much lower value then her,,, (they will act like a hb 9 or 10)

    i think you should be displaying your high value, with this girl.. not trying to reduce hers,, it sounds like she does not need it too much
    Last edited by Rippemapart; 02-17-2011 at 03:04 AM.


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