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  1. #1
    thevilittletroll Guest

    Default Am I having an attraction problem?

    I'm a regular at this sports bar I go to, so I'm there all the time. I pretty much know everybody that frequents there and all the staff, so I always have someone to talk to even when I go there alone. Now I know when I go there to game, I have some form of social proof because I know everybody and always greet them when I walk in. At this time I will look around the room to game on girls i've never seen there before. I have no problems opening , transitioning , and getting phone #'s. It seems like none of these #'s ever turn into dates, but the weird part is when I see these girls in the bar again they all love me and will even approach me. All the girls I know from this bar are all from cold approach and there is a lot of them.

    When I cold approach I get to the hook point about 9 out of 10 times, so my open is excellent. i'm not really getting any solid
    ioi's, my biggest one would be that my target is not asking me what my name is, no hair touching, nothing like that. when i'm in set i can feel that i'm being interesting and we are all having an intriguing conversation, but i'll be in set 20 mins, 35-40 mins if i get through the cube, after that then nothing. i have no problem pulling #'s but i knew they would be flakes and they were. i feel that if i'm getting this far in set i should be a superstar but i'm not really getting anywhere. i feel like i'm just bs'ing with these girls for 20-30 mins and thats it. I'm tired of knowing all these hot chicks and having their phone #'s and having fun with them at the bar, but I'm not having sex with them. Any ideas as to what I'm missing here?

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    Default Re: Am I having an attraction problem?

    If "waiting" for her to ask your name isn't working for you. Just tell her your name. It doesn't have to be ALL game all the time.

    Probably more detail needed about the interactions, but you said nothing about breaking rapport (light teasing, showing mixed signals of interest/disinterest), or more importantly, physical escalation.YOU should be doing the hair pulling. but not before touches on the back, arms, and shoulders. But not before touches on the forearm or elbows. But not before high-fives, side-hugs, and fist bumps.

    You're more focused on being interesting than attracting them. The social proof gets you the "open," but its what you do with it after that that matters.

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    Default Re: Am I having an attraction problem?

    ...so you have the social proof...good with that.
    You wrote "Am I having attraction problems"

    Having social proof, kinda sets in to say that you have some attraction to people...with that note...

    WHAT you don't seem to have is escalation or sexual tension.

    Work on getting more sexual tension, and you'll see that you won't get many flakes...instead they'll just want to rip your clothes...so they're definitely going to meet you when you call them after the first interaction. Do a google search on increasing sexual tension and how to decrease it as well. some people like myself when I first started in this beautiful art, created soooo much sexual tension on accident, that the girls were literally afraid to sit down and have a chat with me...they wanted what I could offer...but were soo sexually tensed that they were afraid/shaking to do anything or say anything other than look into my eyes and smile.

    Too much sexual tension doesn't help you...you basically create a female that is the total equivalent of an average frustrated chump, that chokes on his own words/shakes/sweats all at once in front of girls then runs home saying they can't get a girl..in this case it's the girl running to her friends saying... "OMG OMG! I'm afraid I'll mess up." You don't want that...

    So...to solve your problem, increase sexual tension...THAT is the easier part...(I did it naturally without knowing it might be different for you)....but then you must learn to decrease sexual tension as well...and when the time comes, to increase it and decrease it...and so on Think of a see saw...you are on side, and she is on the other...if you create too much sexual tension you'll make yourself heavier and they'll be up in the air...afraid...try to even it out.

    Good luck...ALSO remember to have fun...the object to go clubbing is to offer excitement and adventure to yourself and your target...do that, and you'll be doing everything needed to sleep with them on your next interaction.

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    Default Re: Am I having an attraction problem?

    I'd disagree that "tension" is what you are after. You're after rapport and attraction. If you keep raising the sexual tension (by escalating) without building either of these things, you'll start to be a creepy lecherous dude. Focus on building rapport, and then breaking lightly like you're unaffected by whether they like you or not.


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