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  1. #1
    JohnnyX Guest

    Default Ethnicity & Game

    So i'm re-starting my PUA life. Before I got a girlfriend I used to be pretty good at picking up girls (house parties, social events etc.). I was able to go from the Open to the number close without a problem... however now, (two years with a girlfriend) I realize that I have completely lost all my game. :O suffering from One-itis for 2 years has made me forget the art of the Pick-up.

    When I was able to run game I was limiting to groups of girls of a specific ethnic origin. I am Goan (Indian) and as a result have a good skill at picking up girls of similar origin but to be honest they are not my type. I can't stand them!! They're attitude, they're "nesting" qualities. MAN!! it just grinds my gears. Now call me what you like, but I have lived in a North American society for my entire life and have in a way been convinced that members of one ethnicity are attracted to member of the same ethnicity and with the random exceptions.

    Understandably, if there is no attraction (bad game, B.O., bad breath), it is easy to blame it on other things, however, after some recent field experiences I have come to this statement: in dancefloor\nightclub \bar game, woman are attracted to a similar ethnicity, if it doesn't match, there is already an uncontrollable obstacle in the way.

    Now some may argue that "looks" have nothing to do with seduction and attraction, this is proven through the great PUA's deliberate big and crazy styles and peacocks. But what about ethnicity and racial stereotypes?

    I know my routines, patterns, and lines work because the girl has interest, stays in the conversation and occasionally (though i need to refine the skill) gives me their number, but I honestly feel that I am missing something. This has been bothering me for the past few weeks when all materials (David DeAngelo, Ross Jefferies, Juggler, Carlos Xuma and even the great Mystery method) are being used and are keeping her interested but I can't seem to go any further. PLEASE Brothers of the art... lend me your thoughts!!

    Sincerely,
    JohnnyX

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    Default Re: Ethnicity & Game

    IMO, dancefloor/nightclub game are heavily based on appearance (and body language). If a girl can't hear you talk, what else do you have to work it? Almost need an entourage of women with you for social proof.

    With bars, lounges, day game, and any other situation where you have the opportunity covertly start conversations, it's what you say, how you say it, and body language.

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    Default Re: Ethnicity & Game

    @JohnnyX: I am in a similar situation. Any way out of it?

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    Default Re: Ethnicity & Game

    My wingman, who doesn't even study seduction, has slept with every Ethnicity expect Asian. Honestly this sounds like you might have some self-limiting beliefs. A little re-framing you can do is this, 'If she is willing to judge a person solely on the color of their skin, is that really the type of woman I want to involve myself with?"

    Honestly just keep trying, you can also watch how people who are getting with these girls are interacting with them. Compare, then refine your plan, then put your plan into action.

    One question: Are you using Kino? That for me was (and still is in some degree) the hardest thing I've had to force myself to learn and apply correctly.

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    Default Re: Ethnicity & Game

    Self-limiting? It's pretty ignorant. It's 2011. Look around.
    Not only is it wrong but if they have those beliefs then that's definitely not someone worth getting!


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