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    Default Night of blow outs any advice?

    Ok first the night started with me and my friend. We were at the club and I saw a 3 set dancing which was one guy and 2 girls. One of them was dating the guy and the other was just by her self.

    So I approach the single girl first ( btw she was a little fat so I was just trying to use her for pre selection lol). I come to find out from her that the other girl is her sister and she is dating the guy. So everything is good I open the entire set. The girl I am dancing with is going for me but I don't want her. So I said to her "I gotta join my friend because he is by him self" so she is like ok.

    So one girl that works there starts dancing and I started to dance with her just to show that I am just a so called " friendly guy " and does not want sex lol which I do lol. Then out of no where two HB 10s walked into the club and guess who they were friends with. They were friends with the first set that I opened. I was like :O.......

    Me and my friend were debating how in the world I was gonna reopen that set ( If you have any advice please let me know cause I am sure I did it wrong or something). So this is what I did.

    The fat chick that I was dancing with before got back up to dance again so I just rejoined her. ( Now the easy part is out of the way) So I started talking if I remember correctly I said " (hmmm you look Mexican" she corrected me and said no I am Greek.

    I said " o really " then said some stuff in Greek to her and started building comfort but keep in mind I don't want a thing to do with her lol. So I said to her " So are these like all your friends" she said " yes they sure are" then I said "introduce me to them" so now I actually go into a formal introduction which I did not do before.

    Now I open the guy which he was the only guy in the group but the thing about it when she was telling me all there names they did not even pay attention to me only the guy did so i was like bummer.......... They did not give me any notification at all .

    So I am talking to the guy and everything and find out the HB 10s were Russian. I could not seem to get any of there attention. (anybody please if you have any advice on this let me know my dancing is really good but I could not seem to get there attention).

    So I leave the set to go talk to my friend ( which btw is very drunk.....). Then the original 3 set leaves and now its just the 2 HB10s there. I have knowledge of them and use it to my advantage. One gets up to get a drink and the other starts dancing. So I get back up and started dancing and initiated the conversation.

    I forgot what my opener was but we started talking and I said " So your friends with the group before". Then I was like yeah I was talking to Simon he said "you guys are from Russia " she was like " yeah we are" then I said a little Russian to her but it was seeming I was going into interview mode which messed me up a lot. ( for everybody out there what could I have done to make an interesting conversation lol I need lots of help if we don't already have something in common to talk about).

    So I actually feel her body movement getting away from me and she ended up going to sit down and I just walk away cause I know I was getting annoying and I don't wanna do that so I just went back to my friend. So I think to my self maybe I need presection to help me out since these girls have not seen that I have been with other girls before.

    So I start dancing with the girl I was dancing before that works there. Then to just see if the preselction was working I approach an Asian chick that was in a 3 set but was kind dancing by her self.

    So I did my dance approach and she just flicked her hand and just shook her head. I got a hint and just went back to my friend. Unfortunately my friend got really drunk went right over there started hitting on her and her friend. I saw there was a guy in the set so I immediately rush over to the guy in the set and just started doing friendly chat.

    I just said " hey don't mind him he is just drunk" Then I find out from the guy that one of the girls is Russian and the other is from Kazakhstan. The one that is from Russia is his girlfriend and also the one my friend was talking to which was not a good mix lol. Also the other one was married LOL...... So I softened the guy up in the set and he says " yeah its ok w/e he is drunk "

    So I see this really drunk girl that was by he self so I went for it. I went for the " so tell me this who lies more girls or boys" She started talking about well guys smoke a lot I was like............. But anyways opened her and did not know what do to so I said something like " so do you like to dance or what"

    She said " yeah I love to dance in my bubble" So I said to her " well I am gonna pop your bubble" so I drew a circle and popped it which made her laugh and I tried to dance with her but it was just not good enough lol. So far I opened like 5 girls and 2 opened successfully 1 kind of wandered off and sat down and the others I just totally blew out lol.

    Also to make it bad enough the club was small and there were only like 15 people in there and 6 of them were girls so my options just kept dying lol.

    Also I noticed the drunk friend opener works really good lol. So my friend is still drunk and keeps pointing to girls and saying " go talk to them, go talk to these".

    It kept dropping my value and it was bad enough its Sunday and I wore a t-shirt and jeans to the club lol and on top of that my glasses are broken and i have a peace of tap holding one side of my lens together lol.

    I was really pushing it tonight lol. So my friend sat right at the Russian girl table and i was like..... o no........... One of the Russian girls was dancing the one that kinda walked off on me and the other was sitting down. My friend sat like 5 feet away from her and i knew it was now or never. So I went in with the " Please excuse him but he is a little drunk and she said to me " O don't worry i did that along time ago"

    So I laughed and opened smoothly. Then I went on about how i met her friend already and I knew a little bit about her. She even said to me " o wow your amazing you know all this stuff already ". She even tried to deny it but I put her in her place and was like well I already met like 5 of your friends that told me u were from Russia lol. So I ran some ESP on her and said " pick a number between 1 and 4 now don't say it " i got it wrong but she went with it anyways.

    I talked a little more and knew I was messing up cause I was going into interview mode again.... man I need good conversation pieces lol. She even told me. "Sorry I am a bitch right now but I really don't want to talk I just wanna chill, all this stuff about where I am from and so on I don't want to do, all I want to do is chill."

    Then before you know it her friend comes in and saves her with the " I am going to smoke want to join and I already knew what was gonna happen so her friend walks out. So I said to my self now or never. So she said something to me and I told her how I love people from other countries and thought they were cool and we should meet up some time but she declined lol like I knew she was going to do but I had to try lol.

    Well guys please give some pointers. I am willing to take all the brutal comments cause I know that it is all a learning experience. Well thanks for reading. Just for all of you that have approach anxiety. I figured out that I feel much better that I actually tried and blew a lot of sets. Most people are nice about it and let you know if they are in the mood or not and will work with you. The meanest turned down I got tonight was from the Asian chick which she said to me " O wait I really don't want to talk with you "

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    Default Re: Night of blow outs any advice?

    "she was a little fat so I was just trying to use her for pre selection" - Pfff, no. The most effective way to leverage a pre-selection is to have a HB8 as a wing-girl or for gaming. This is also a DLV.

    "I started to dance with her just to show that I am just a so called " friendly guy " and does not want sex lol which I do" - Which is exactly you you came off as. You tried a little bit too hard. Next time, try to dance by yourself as in be the center of attention. They will come to you. As long as you convey that you're having fun as it is, they will come to you.

    "she was telling me all there names they did not even pay attention to me only the guy did so i was like bummer" - Of course they didn't, they're HB10's. Next time, do something that will change the frame from "I want their attention" to "They should work for my attention".

    On the whole, you were basically too eager for everything. That's why you lost it with an opener and got shot down by the Asian chick pretty bad.

    Btw, a club with 15 people? Wtf? I've seen hangout's at someone's place much bigger than this AND they were small apartments, too. And this worked against you. Since they were few persons in the club, chances are they saw your every move, you got "scanned" and got labeled as "wannabe player" who got shot down enough times and who tried too hard.

    Since clubs are loud ( I really don't go out sarging in clubs because of this ), use your dancing for peacocking and don't care if you get a number close, a kiss close or even a fclose or not. Just have fun.

    This attitude worked for me on quite a lot occasions. I mentioned I don't sarge in clubs, but ironically, this is the place that I get approached by women the most. Ratio is 3:1 ( meaning for every approach I make, I get 3 women to approach me ). And sometimes, I don't have to approach at all, they just step in proximity and start dancing with me on their own. Works just as well with hired guns.

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    Default Re: Night of blow outs any advice?

    Btw thats what i do. I did not just imediatly approach the fat girl lol. I started dancing by my self doing my thing and then there group was looking at me. So i just slowly made my way over there. but thanks for the advice next time i am gonna try something different lol. I actually feel alot better knowing that i tried rather than chickening out lol i am surprised.

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    Default Re: Night of blow outs any advice?

    I didn't said nor imply that you immediately approach the fat girl. DLV-ing yourself, you did.

    And yeah, what you did was good enough and if that's your thing ( sarging in clubs ), then do it. Be focused on you, not on the outcome of things. If you do dance good, then do it more often and peacock it and leave the chicks to do the approaching ) And you'll be surprised, quite frankly.

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    Default Re: Night of blow outs any advice?

    question for @Sitfab:

    This scenario actually happens to me quite a bit in the club. So let's say you're out with your wingman and you're dancing, having fun, DHV. You're attracting attention. Slowly, a set meanders over and soon they're dancing next to you. When/how do you make a move?

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    Default Re: Night of blow outs any advice?

    Club game?

    Yo'.. If you know how to dance, go on a spot and dance alone, spot someone you're interested to dance with, approach her, get INFRONT of her or somewhere she can see you, offer your hand or take her hand casually still keeping your dance flow, give her a turn as dance with one hand, and from there natural game can be added (Flirt, n-close w/e)

    That's what I do all the time.


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