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    Hey guys I need your help ASAP.
    I'm 21, and I've been awkward and fat AFC with very little friends till I was 19 and discovered PUA world.
    Since than I was totally transformed (physically and mentally) Now I'm 6' 4" tall, blue eyed, tanned, very groomed, ripped guy.


    Like most guys, I started reading books for long time, most days reading like 12 hours a day. I've read books from Mystery, Thundercat, Juggler, David D., Ross Jefries etc. Every book I could find, hundreds of them...
    I have also watched seminars from David D. (Body Language, Approaching, Advanced Series...), Hypnotica-Ultimate Inner Game etc.

    I need your help on getting my first f-close (don't laugh). I was in position like 1 year ago to get it 3-4 times but I was drunk and had alcholol d1ck (bad timing lol) But now I'm getting desperate.
    Even though I'm now extremely good looking, I still don't have confidence in myself. I guess that 19 years of afc behavior and being very very very self conscious messed up my head badly Girls now wink at me, grab my ass and giving me extreme eye contact everywhere but I'm still very self conscious Nothing helps me, I've tried NLP, Hypnotica DVDs... Nothing.
    And I didn't have a girlfriend for about a year.

    My biggest sticking point is whole mid game and dating, I suck at it big time. I don't really want any of that to be honest, and relationships are boring as hell. I just want to be able to quickly f-close.

    I'm going out tonight to open some girls for fun and to improve my confidence.


    Ask me anything you need to know! This must be one of the weirdest situations you have seen.

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    Default Re: Need help asap

    I've seen weirder ).

    The thing is that your inner game still sucks big time from what I see. That's the problem with using canned material and all that, they're like a blanket that covers your true sense of self and it shows. Women pick up on it instantly ( if you game them tight, then it's gradually ) when you're not congruent with what you want to project. You might have SOME value, but your frame isn't that strong to begin with.

    You're too attached to the outcome and as a result you micro-manage this situation. The thing is to be in the moment. Be out of your head. Don't attach too much importance.

    And from what you've said, you didn't read too much material on Inner Game. It's THE most important aspect of pick-up and you SHOULD know this, because you have read stuff from people who have ROCK SOLID inner game and presence and what have you.

    I've never went for an F-Close to begin with nor did I have F-Closed ever since I got into the PUA community 5 years ago and I'm not afraid to admit it ( took a 2 year break from PU because of a LTR ). Because I believe it won't make a difference if I fuck her the night I meet her or the night after, she's going to end up in bed with me anyway. Sure, that will be nice if it happens, but I quite frankly don't care, I'm out to party and have a great time.

    Bottom line is bump down the canned material but keep them as a "conversational security" material.

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    Yea my inner game is messed up, I know that is the most important part. I wish someone told me that 2-3 years ago, cuz I've been thinking only about outer game.

    "Bottom line is bump down the canned material but keep them as a "conversational security" material."
    -Believe me I tried that didn't worked out Especially when I am on dates, I'm just left speechless (remember 95% of my life I was not hanging out with too much with people).

    "I've never went for an F-Close to begin with"
    -You realize that I'm 21 right?

    Can you recommend some good material (book, videos) that you think will help me with my problem? Or some other advice?

    The only few situations where I'm feeling like a superstar and my confidence is maxed out is on saturday evening in clubs and so. Btw I went from isolated nerd to hardcore clubber
    Thx

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    Default Re: Need help asap

    You need Tony Robbins for the career, and COUNSELING for your social anxieties. Don't be afraid of it. You need to open up and interact with someone on these issues or you won't be able to turn it around. With each new thing you read, you're just stacking a better understanding of how you're fuÁked up on top of the last understanding. You need to get some thoughts OUT, not in.

    Hypnotica is cool, but the guy can't write; it's hard to get entranced when the language he uses is ambiguous. Then maybe an inner game program from David D. would have more of an impact. Look for some meditation programs that you can use to concentrate on the principles you learn.

    You can't acquire technique without practice, and you can't acquire inner game without meditation on it.

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    Default Re: Need help asap

    And I'm 24, so no big difference. )

    See, this is where you're wrong. Bump them gradually. If you use say 6 routines per date, next time go for 4-5. When you get comfortable enough, go for 3-4 and so on until you are left with one ( and that one ONLY in case of emergency ). Hard, but if you have the will, you'll succeed, eventually.

    In terms of books and videos, try David DeAngelo's Man Transformation. It'll take some time to sink in, though.

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    Guys thx for your time.
    I'm gonna get David D. Man Transformation and Deep Inner Game.

    "and COUNSELING"
    -I can't really afford that, I'm college student

    I think the best thing I can do is read inner game stuff and watch several times that videos that I mentioned.

    And I am thinking about going out every single night and sarging like crazy, do you think this is the best thing for me to get over anxiety and social fear and awkwardness? Any other tips?

    One more thing, what do you think about my structure that I've come up with few days ago, which I plan on using for my crazy 100 approach goal:

    Jealous Girlfriend+False Time Constraint+ Transition line+Neg+NLP (Incredible Connection+Falling in Love+Attraction vs Love+Trust pattern+some dirty pattern for getting her hot)
    Is not problem for me to remember all this cuz I've known it for like 2 years lol

    @Sitfab
    You haven't f-closed yet? Didn't you mentioned that you were in a 2 year LTR?

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    Default Re: Need help asap

    F-Close ( at least to me ) = Same-Night-Lays.

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    Ok than.
    What do u think about my plan from previous post?

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    Default Re: Need help asap

    What can I say, if it works for you and you know it does work for you, then go for it. I for one wouldn't do that much NLP, because it's CLEARLY visible from the Moon that you are going for the F-Close as fast as possible. Nothing too wrong with that, but don't fry her brain with that much NLP if you're only in it for the F-Close. One or two, MAYBE three are enough. More than that is just wrong for obvious reasons, man.

    At the very least, try to get out of your comfort zone. Eliminate patterns FAST and routines gradually. Work on it at home.

    Try this exercise while still working on your inner game :

    Replace NLP with the M3 model slightly. After you got comfortable with this, adopt the M3 model completely. After you got comfortable with this, eliminate patterns one by one, gradually. It'll take some time though, but stick to it and you'll be juuuuuust fine and come out a natural.

    ( For the record and in case you didn't noticed, I don't like using NLP patterns, it's downright manipulative. Rarely did it in the past when I first started, but never will do it again, so I'm kind of biased with my replies ).
    Last edited by Sitfab; 03-23-2011 at 09:12 AM. Reason: Added More Information

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    Thx Sitfab for your advice!

    If I go out tonight I will post here my field report and let u comment on it.


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