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    Unhappy Help! KC, she lowers her head....

    Hi guys,

    I need some help on this one. I have known this chick for a while - she seems to be into me - she likes to go out with me on lunch dates, she flushes sometimes when I am around, gets nervous around me sometimes, talks openly about sex, etc. We kiss on the cheek and hug each other frequently. She even e-mailed me a "miss you" note.
    Yes, she has a boyfriend.
    Anyway, what bothers me is that recently, whenever we are standing and I go for the kiss on the cheek, with the purpose of trying to build momentum for a KC, or for the KC itself, she lowers her head - and I end up kissing her hair. After this tension is over, she then becomes nice again. Otherwise, I can kino her ok - no major rejection.
    I need to KC her soon.
    But this behavior is disturbing me.
    What should I do? What am I missing?

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    Default Re: Help! KC, she lowers her head....

    get rid of her boyfriend... she seems to have the decency to be faithful.. despite her act to flirt and lead you on ..

    missing = you probably see her too often and she sees you as a friend or a good friend .... do you want that? probably not, so cut the lunch dates and random kisses... give her less attention, maybe bring her boiyfriend up and see their status ... that always complicates things.

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    Default Re: Help! KC, she lowers her head....

    Maybe you're coming off as getting a little too attached and she's feeling guilty?
    "No ibo quiete in noctem"

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    Question Help! Last Minute Resistance to the KC

    Hi guys,

    Thanks for the replies. But I have observed that the more I go out with her, the more attached she becomes. That much is very true.
    So, a freeze out seems to me to be counterproductive at this stage.
    A good friend, maybe, but I have been put in the friend zone before by other girls and I know this is no friend zone. No girl who ever put me on her friend zone behaved the way she does.

    Yes, she leads me on - obviously on purpose. And I think she is knowingly taking a risk with that...

    But at the same time, if she is faithful, she seems unable to cut me off completely, because she allows kinos, etc. And goes with me in my car, and I caress her thighs. She even trembled one day when, in my car, my hand was on her thigh - she trembled just like she was going through a mini-convulsion.

    As far as I see it, it looks like she is having a sort of last minute resistance to the KC.

    By the way, according to Pandora, she is of the seductress type.

    How do you guys suggest I overcome that?

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    Default Re: Help! KC, she lowers her head....

    Maybe you should try setting up a meeting at your house and watch a movie, this will give you a great opportunity to kino and go in for the k-close. You may even do more.

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    Default Re: Help! KC, she lowers her head....

    That is a possibility - that if I keep trying, one day she will crack and concede the KC, perhaps in an environment like the one you suggest.

    On the other hand, upon consulting a few friends, some suggest I should freeze her out for a while, in the sense of stopping the kino and displays of affection, getting to know her more as a friend to try to make her chase me, and eventually be able to KC later.
    Do you guys think that would be a good strategy?

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    Default Re: Help! KC, she lowers her head....

    Well, she is feeling guilty that is a fact.

    But at this point, you have gotten yourself in a mid-shitty point.

    she likes you/ is attracted to you, while having a boyfriend, and feels guilty.

    She will give you some last minute resistance, but be persistent, and consistent with your persistence, now.

    I will not consider a freeze out to be proper at this point, since she will think you are toying with her, by giving her all, and then taking it all away, plus, her "doubts" will increase as you freeze her out.

    Best thing you can do at this point, build her up... all the way, and then show her that it is ok to be with you.

    I have run into this before, but keep been persistent, don't get mad, or upset, understand that she is not at her best feeling doubtful, but as always, show her that you might not be around forever. She has a boyfriend, she will have to make a decision, especially if she is the faithful type.

    Sounds like you have it all worked out to your advantage other than the last minute resistance, always keep a smile, and always be positive.

    when she shows resistance, tell her is ok, stop for a little bit, and try "asking" again in a different way.

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    Default Re: Help! KC, she lowers her head....

    Syrus,
    I do not know why, but your interpretations of the facts seem perfect to me. Perhaps they are not, but the truth is that they sound perfect to my ears. Or perhaps that was what I wanted to hear...

    Anyway...

    I will follow your suggestion!

    May the force be with me!


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