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    Exclamation True Sticking Point, Please HELP THIS ALWAYS HAPPENDS TO ME!

    Ok guys, I've seen many seminars, I've read The Game by Neil Strauss, I've opened many women, and theres one sticking point I can't get past, and its the LJBF. Thing is I know one of the main components of this is to Kino early on in the set, but it seems like I just can't kino well, the farthest I've gone is play hugs and hand holding, but I just don't know how I should take it farther. Now the main reason why I'm posting this is I need to know what to do next with this one girl I've gamed so I won't fall victim to the LJBF once again.

    ( Note this is not a 1 Itis Situation, I just want to learn what to do next so that in future situations with other girls i'll know what to do.)

    Ok, this all started about 1 year ago, there was this girl, Lauren which whom I used to work with, when I first saw her I used some opener and a cold read can't remember excatly what it was, but eventually I got her to come out with me and my friends to the mall. I got us handtouching and I got 1 hug that day, however one of my friends was cockblocking the WHOLE TIME so she flaked and I never saw her again until the next year, I had tried to call and text, but to no avail.

    So this year April first, my prom date canceled on me and I needed a new prom date, and I check my contacts and decided to give it another shot with Lauren, I asked her if she wanted to come to my prom she replied with "HELL YEA" so I took this as an IOI and got a lil happy. So I would text her everyday and built up a pretty good connection and rappor I used some cocky funny stuff. 3 weeks before the prom we decided to go shopping for the dress, so she picked me up and we left to the mall, ( Im 18, shes turning 17, I was 17 until last wednesday)
    when we got to the mall we had a blast, we even shared a drink =D, alot of people randomly said we look good together and that the dress we decided to get was amazingly stunning, however there were 3 problematic events that occured on the way. 1st at the gas station she was talking to some random guy and I didn't really know what to say or how to handle it but I was a little upset, 2nd when we walked into Aldo's the some 26 year old guy tried to hit on her but I didn't notice till we were leaving, then 3rd some strange looking fellow walked over to us and said " Is that ya girl yo!? " sorta froze and looked at her, and then he was like " NO SHE NOT let me talk to her for a sec" then she was like yes he is and we kept walking.

    Moments later I felt misearable about not being AMOG, so I thought all was lost. We had planned to go out the saturday after next, but she flaked, we were supposed to go out that sunday, again she flaked, that wednesday was my birthday we were supposed to go out flaked once again. At this point I was upset and we got into a little argument, and she would'nt pick up my calls or reply my text.

    Earlier on that sunday that she flaked I called her once went straight to voice mail, again it picked up I heard a male voice and she auto hung up. That day was the day I realized what true hatred and anger was, I had truly never been so pissed off in my life. Later she told me her brother was in the hospital, and I felt bad about how I acted on my birthday, thursday was the day I was to pick up the Tux and get the corsaged for prom, I also had planned to cook a steak dinner for her on Friday.

    Thursday came and I was heading to the mall, she said she didn't want to go but felt as though she had no choice, I told her to stay home, and that on the way back from the mall we would get the corsages. However, the flower shop was closed so I had to get the stuff later that saturday (the day of prom).

    Friday arrived and she didn't flake, she came over and met my family, her and my mom got along well and at this point I increased the kino to about 6sec play hugs and putting my arm around her and pulling her close very alpha like. I proceeded to make the steak and really DHV'ed myself showing her how skilled I am and showing her all my cool stuff blah blah blah, I also heard from Mystery a good way to seal the deal is to feed a girl food, so I fed her 2 pieces of the steak and she also fed me =D. She left and the day of prom came, however this is when shit gets crazy. I checked her facebook status and she wrote this "My Date Is Preparing A Lovely Steak Dinner He's Such A Sweetheart. #candlelightdinner lifetime with him ♥. Out w the Girlsss Later ."

    My Brother, Mother, and her Father saw us off and we left for the liqour store, she had a fake ID and got us some sweet tea vodka which we mixed with a sweet tea from mcdonalds and drank some on the way to prom. At this point all was well, until we couldn't find a place to park, it took us about 30min in which she had lost the smile on her face, I had to make some calls and got a hook up at the days in Hotel ( i think this was a dhv shows that I know people =D). When we got there we got our appointment for pictures and went in, we danced and had some fun for about 30 min, this was not her school so I could sense she was a little bit uncomfortable, I tried to introduce her to people I knew and tried to make myself look cool.

    However, she noticed she had lost her flash drive which contained all her work since 7th grade and all her final exam work. So she was super sad and I could tell I tried to look for it and I had everyone on the job but, it was no use, I tried to take her mind off of it by taking her to the dance floor and getting some kino , however she halted all my advances and refused to take her keys out of her hands so no hand touching or anything just me dancing infront of her holding her hips occasionally. Then as we walked out of the prom, we saw a guy getting the holy shit beaten out of him on the street by 2 guys with crowbars, in my mind im like FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! ANOTHER PROBLEM!, but I kickbox and was ready to own these guys and DHV, she insisted I called the cops, also we got a little lost and couldn't find the hotel. We had to pass the 2 guys who owned the other poor fellow, she told me she was scared so I grabbed her hand and we walked off, but soon after we passed them she let go off my hand, and was walking very slowly, I kept leaving her behind accidently =/ im thinking I dlv'ed. Anyways we got to the car and..... I had lost the after prom tickets .... so then at this point I was like O M F G!!!!!!!!!!!.
    We took some shots of the vodka and proceeded to the after prom, (we got in). There was supposed to be a hot tub, but they said we couldn't use it she left the after prom early stating she had to work early, and I gave her a hug, looked her in her eyes and she walked off. I haven't seen her since then, but we text, she said she had fun and I'm inviting her to my senior farewell (she seemed like she doesn't want to go ) I also invited her to my graduation party.
    Thats it guys I know its a very long post but I really appreciate those who took there time to read it, I want a relationship with this girl, so that if something like this ever happends again I know where to take it, but right now I'm 100% confused I don't know if I'm in or if im out so please guys if you have anything, anything at all please reply to this thread and spread the word, any reply is GREATLY appreciated.

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    Default Re: True Sticking Point, Please HELP THIS ALWAYS HAPPENDS TO ME!

    I can field this one, however I'm not a guru, so take my advice with a grain of salt.

    To me it appears that your problem is you are too needy. For example, the girl was probably getting uncomfortable not because your friend was "cockblocking" (get new friends if they do this), but because you were probably telegraphing that it was bugging you. The key is to NOT CARE, even if you do, you have to force yourself and shrug it off.

    Start blaming yourself for things too, that helps you fix your problems. It's probably YOUR fault she flaked, as hard as that might be for your ego. Be a man, step up and do something about it

    You're trying to hard. Stop caring, if she's in a bad mood, don't TRY to cheer her up because she'll pick up on this and lose attraction for you, you have to just be chill, and BE the fun guy and her mood will naturally improve.

    Ask yourself before you do anything: "Is this what Brad Pitt would do in this situation", and if the answer is no, don't do it.

    Hope this helps.

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    Default Re: True Sticking Point, Please HELP THIS ALWAYS HAPPENDS TO ME!

    Remember to be gaming "multiple women" at the same time to avoid "One-itis"

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    Default Re: True Sticking Point, Please HELP THIS ALWAYS HAPPENDS TO ME!

    Seconded. You wouldn't be making the silly needyness mistakes if you honestly had other options.

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    Default Re: True Sticking Point, Please HELP THIS ALWAYS HAPPENDS TO ME!

    You should read this blog post of mine:

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