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    Default My angel without wings(isn't such an angel)

    Who I am: charming, athletic, smart, young motivated man at a top university who will graduate at the top of his class, land a solid job and move on to a top business school for his MBA/MSF.
    background: classic loner/computer nerd crossed with the highschool football star, cares more about electronic toys than people in general(in short I DGAF about going out and would rather play videogames, but when forced into a group situation I'm the guy who games girls for sport and has others asking how) stands to inherit a few million dollars as well.

    Chick: damaged goods, attractive but realistically a 7/10. Personality is usually a 10/10. I mean that, I've toyed with literally hundreds of women for sport. Intelligent and edgy enough to keep me on my toes. Videogame playing and does martial arts. To me, she's a nerd's dream come true.

    Long story short:
    I met girl through business club, and am effectively forced to talk to her due to a project. What should have been 10 minutes of talking turned into 10 hours, and a repeated 10 hours the next day and the day after and so on... some time goes on and I decide "fark it, who cares if she's not what I'd normally game I like this chick" and bullsh1t ensues.

    Issue: she's in a relationship with another guy. relationship is likely a rebound. other guy is short, fat, has an ugly face, a small d1ck(he's very nice though, he's even gone as far as giving me permission to fark his girl without me asking) they have "history"

    I've been dealing with being the other guy for going on 10 months now. At this point I'm feeling battered and abused. I've been told to go elsewhere countless times by the girl as she feels she isn't worth it.

    It's not a 50-50 relationship at this point, it's a 90-10. I've been absolutely incredible to her, any other girl would feel like a princess. I told her a few months ago that she had until the end of August to make a decision. I'm thinking about moving this deadline up to the end of July. She said she'd have made up her mind before then, so this shouldn't be an issue.

    I'm just looking for people to tell me to gftog
    Last edited by xultima; 09-06-2011 at 04:12 AM.

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    Default Re: My angel without wings(isn't such an angel)

    That's exactly what you should do. GFTOG, dude.

    Listen, "damaged goods, attractive but realistically a 7/10" doesn't cut it. It sounds like you're just settling with her because of the video games thing. You should go for higher than that.

    "She feels she isn't worth it" is right. This is a huge red flag you should spot. It's announcing the break-up.

    Putting on deadlines for this kinda stuff is waaay too controlling. Making up her mind is useless here in this case. You've been at it for 10 months, wouldn't you think she'd want more with you by now if that was the case?

    Eject yourself from this

    GFTOG.

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    Default Re: My angel without wings(isn't such an angel)

    The "relationship" ended within 24 hours of this post. She stated that her decision was obvious and I basically held her to her preliminary declaration. I haven't farked 10 other girls but I have added around 20-30 to my facebook, texted a bunch and moved on the best that I could. It wasn't just about her playing videogames it was more than that. She's something special for someone. With that said, one of the criteria I hold for anyone who I will ever consider for a relationship is that they decisively want to be with me. She failed that criteria. She failed. I'm not over it at this point even two months later, but contact has been cut and I'm moving on.

    In retrospect, I can't believe that I allowed myself to surrender power as I had, it was pathetic and degrading. Never again will I be so dishonored and forced to discard who I am and what I believe in for a person who is so manipulative, distrusting and secretive. Simply put, I deserve better and refuse to settle. I would sooner spend my life alone than in misery.

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    Default Re: My angel without wings(isn't such an angel)

    Quote Originally Posted by xultima View Post
    She's something special for someone.
    LOL u called her a thing. very nice!


    Quote Originally Posted by xultima View Post
    With that said, one of the criteria I hold for anyone who I will ever consider for a relationship is that they decisively want to be with me. She failed that criteria. She failed. I'm not over it at this point even two months later, but contact has been cut and I'm moving on.

    In retrospect, I can't believe that I allowed myself to surrender power as I had, it was pathetic and degrading. Never again will I be so dishonored and forced to discard who I am and what I believe in for a person who is so manipulative, distrusting and secretive. Simply put, I deserve better and refuse to settle. I would sooner spend my life alone than in misery.
    its ok just dont be a twat about it we forgive you and stuff

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    Default Re: My angel without wings(isn't such an angel)

    I firmly believe that a majority of relationships are never ever 50-50. They turn to 60-40, 55-45, or even 90-10. Never settle. Never settle for a girl who is waiting around to figure out what is best for her. You are best for her. So if she can't see that, someone else sure as hell will.
    You have to realize that when you are in a "relationship". It is okay to be picky, it is okay to want what you want. Why settle? Why change your ideas? You deserve what you want, so you have to go out and get it. If she doesn't want you, so be it. On to the next one.... Girls are like buses, miss one, well next 15 minutes one's coming.

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    Default Re: My angel without wings(isn't such an angel)

    +1 what Mr8Hyde6 said.

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    Default Re: My angel without wings(isn't such an angel)

    Quote Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    +1 what Mr8Hyde6 said.
    Thank you

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    Default Re: My angel without wings(isn't such an angel)

    No problem, you were/are speaking the truth which is what he needed to hear.

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    Default Re: My angel without wings(isn't such an angel)

    Ohh a sh1tstorm happened...

    It was her birthday and I promised her I'd wish her a happy birthday sometime ago and I decided to stick to it. She blocked my phone number so I messaged her 'boyfriend' on facebook. I asked him to be my messenger if he felt it was appropriate and to discard my good wished if not or he otherwise desired not to.

    Apparently, six or 7 weeks after she broke up with me, she broke up with him. She's onto her next victim and they'll be living together during the next school year. From what little I understand of her(and at this point I expect nothing to be accurate or clear if it came from her mouth due to her manipulative nature and her own uncertainty) she refused to move in with me because she was worried it'd be too soon, too early to do so after having known me for only around a year. She's probably known this third guy for some time now. I have no idea how long they've been talking but I can only assume that it's been substantial.

    This bitch, and I mean bitch, was fooling around with 3 guys for some time. Her ex was a great guy, he treated her exceptionally well and I was much the same in how I treated her. We worked to keep things positive and wanted to allow her make up her mind and despite this, she had ANOTHER person on the side.

    At her ex's advice (he knew she blocked my cell after we broke up and he advised her against it) I called from a different line, sincerely wished her a happy birthday and apologized for any mistakes I made and I wished her good luck in her future and told her that I would not be reaching out until she reached out to me. I was positive. I maintained a promise I made. I now promise to never take her back. I'll make an exception if I see substantial change based on several criteria such as willingness to become more open and less manipulative, having spent approximately 1 year or more of her life single - she hasn't been single for more than a few weeks at a time since age 15 (I've done the rough math, since puberty, she's had an average of 1.1 to 1.3 boyfriends at any given moment depending on what numbers you used), she commits to obtaining a high earnings career instead of chasing after bullsh1t, and she actually shows people a proper level of respect.
    The above is fair and is equivalent to saying never. I deserve better than what I had to deal with.


    I don't feel guilt anymore though. I wasn't the bad guy who ruined a "great" relationship, she's just emotionally damaged and has no idea what she wants or how to handle herself. I'm working to become friends with her ex(we were on good terms and looking back he had more respect for me and who I am than she ever did) and I will atone, at least in part, for any wrong doings I committed. I will regain my integrity. I will restore my pride. I will raise from this a better person. Never again will I allow myself to be so dishonored.
    Last edited by xultima; 09-08-2011 at 07:10 AM.

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    Default Re: My angel without wings(isn't such an angel)

    well all it took was some time to see the light! look at the bright side, you have a wingman now!


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