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    Default Re: Need help following up on HB Sorority girl

    Yeah I normally prefer to avoid dinner dates as well, at least for first dates. She rang me beforehand asking if we could have dinner because she had to do work the next day and therefore didn't want to do drinks (but she drank at dinner anyway). And I agree, movie dates are a terrible idea.

    I texted her saying "yeah you better not think I take all my friends out to such decent places ". I thought that was quite a good idea.

    As expected, she didn't reply to that one; that's not a problem. Thing is, I happen to have a few days free this weekend with absolutely nothing to do. It would be perfect to do something with her but I'm just wondering if there's any specific approach I should have. I was thinking there is a wine tasting place nearby that I wanted to check out, and during our date we talked about perhaps doing that together. I could suggest doing it, any rules about how I should communicate it given the approach I've been taking?

    Also, I get the impression she's quite inexperienced with guys and a little shy even, which is surprising because she's really hot. If a girl is too shy to make clear and/or deliberate IOIs, how do you tell if she likes you?

    Thanks again for your help. I'm used to dealing with real b**ches, have no idea how to deal with nice girls :S

    John

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    Default Re: Need help following up on HB Sorority girl

    Now that you disqualified her it is time to show and IOI. That way she will know you are still into her for sure. Calling her is definitely and IOI.

    I would say you call her again to ask. You set the precedent that you are going to call when you want to do something.

    I think just strait forward with this one. Just say "Hey remember the wine tasting we talked about? It's at X time. Lets go check it out. It sounded like it should be fun"

    I would say the Let's go part so that you sound assumptive in the fact that she is going to come with you. And who doesn't like fun right?

    I think you are in pretty good shape right now.
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    Default Re: Need help following up on HB Sorority girl

    Thanks again Tropics. Your advice is incredibly helpful!

    She ended up calling me before I was able to call her. She asked if I wanted to "hang out" Thursday. I accepted and went to her flat Thursday night. A lot of her friends were there getting ready to go out and teasing her for wanting to stay in with me instead of hit the bars.

    So her friends left and we ended up watching this chick flick - as you do I suppose :S. Towards the end she was resting her head on my shoulder etc etc. It was very ummm... boyfriend/girlfriend style, which is fine I guess since I enjoy her company.

    Anyway, she tells me she's too tired to drive me back (I'm walking distance away btw), and if I'd like to stay with her. Obviously I said yes. Then we were in bed and once again she puts on really casual bedtime clothes. She flinched every time I tried to touch her in provocative spots, and she was nervous about where she could touch me (meaning she doesn't realise guys don't mind being touched anywhere before even knowing a hot girl's name). So I asked if she was a virgin, and she said YES!! We talked for a while and I extracted the following information:

    - She's never slept with a guy
    - She's never given a blowjob
    - She'd never do a fling
    - She'd never date multiple guys at once
    - She'd only sleep with a guy if it was a proper relationship

    So it would appear all your advice was entirely correct and worked perfectly, but I've just managed to catch a virgin who I presume has a real crush on me.

    I'm not sure I'm willing to go exclusive yet. Perhaps this isn't really PUA advice I'm asking for, but how do I decide if going exclusive is a good idea? Also, sex is very important to me in a relationship so if I DO decide to continue dating her, I need to know she'll put out relatively soon. Given that she's 21 and this would potentially be her first serious relationship, how fast do you think I could progress this, assuming going exclusive is a good course of action?

    Not sure if this is your area of expertise, but I'm quite notorious for attracting clingy virgins and normally it ends badly - perhaps you might know of a tactical way to proceed...

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    Default Re: Need help following up on HB Sorority girl

    Tropics, that was great advice, i'm definately gonna remember the flirty waitress line

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    Default Re: Need help following up on HB Sorority girl

    Jon,

    Getting a girl like that to sleep with you is going to take A LOT of work. If you are willing to put the time in then you could prob. get her to do it. The fact that she has never given a BJ makes me think she is either lying, or a hardcore church girl.

    The first thing you are going to have to do is get her to go down on you, and that will also take work. you can't push too hard, or she is going to think you are a real asshole, and tell EVERY girl that she knows about it. Watch out for your rep. dude. If she went all the way through high school without fooling around man it will take TIME and patience.

    I dated a virgin about 6 or 7 years ago, and I finally got her to have sex with me after about a year. But the girl I am talking about was a blow job maniac. She would beg to go down on me, so I think we are talking about different kinds of girls.

    It is hard to say, but it sounds like she isn't going to be dropping her panties anytime soon. Not impossible, but it won't be a cakewalk. As far as getting exclusive I think only you can answer that question. The real question is, is it worth it for you? I mean you could prob. get farther with 5 other girls in that course of time. I am not saying it is not worth it, that is really only something that you can decide.
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    Default Re: Need help following up on HB Sorority girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Tropics, that was great advice, i'm definately gonna remember the flirty waitress line
    That is borrowed material, so I can't take credit for its origin. However, here is one that I canned personally that is also good, and similar.

    Hey girls, can I get a womanly opinion on this? If a girl that you recently met likes a picture of yours on facebook, and then 2 hours later likes another. Did she look at your profile twice, or for 2 hours strait? And furthermore, wouldn't you find either one to be creepy?

    Keep in mind this is a girl I met just once.

    (This is actually something that just recently happened to me, lol)

    Feel free to use this too if you want.
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