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    Default Need help with HB9+ on escalating 22y/o - Confused on signals

    My first post guys! Nice to join the community! Sorry for the long read, couldnt phrase it shorter!

    Okay guys here's a situation I am in and need your advice on how to escalate and move on.. Am by no means any expert on picking up girls, hence why I need your helpful advice!

    I've met this girl about a year back when she was over for a few months studying abroad (originally from my country) but back then I didnt have the chance to do anything as her time of stay was too short, however I managed to get her contact details and all, knowing that she will return next year (now).

    Back then she used to have a boyfriend (not that i really cared as she was giving IOI), but nevertheless I kept contact every now and again so when she returned we're not 'total strangers'. We also stumbled across one another once or twice briefly when I was back in my country.

    Anyhow, I've been teasing her like hell (even over texts, which she is slightly complaining about too! too much tease? saying that no one teases her. She'se easily an HB9), building some comfort, even trying to build some sexual tension, innuedo, etc.. (In the meanwhile she broke up with her bf about 6-7 months ago). I didn't think that teasing, being c&f and building comfort would work over texting, but to my suprise it seems it worked. I tried to also make sure I dont drop in the friend zone, so hopefully that worked..

    We met today over for a coffee at uni while waiting for her friends, with me contuing to tease, receive ioi, misinterpret what she was saying and starting some light kino and all that. As a matter of fact I felt that she was feeling very comfortable around me, although I understand she's being approached all the time and feels comfortable around men and giving IOI to all men as all HB9s are. I could see IOI there like giggling all the time, hair playing, cliche ioi, (at least ioi i usually pick up form other chicks) but then again she might be giving them to anyone. So am a bit confused on the signals she's sending across.

    And then her friends came over so i couldnt continue doing my thing..

    Also, dont know if this matters or not, but she 'fb raped' me while I was at the toilet changing my status to "her name <3"..

    Now this is where you guys come into play and need your help on how to escalate.

    Sorry for the long read and lousy english! Appreciate your help in advance!

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    Default Re: Need help with HB9+ on escalating 22y/o - Confused on signals

    From what it seems, you have got her interested in you. She still talks with you after a year. She doesn't have a bf. Who cares that she is an HB9 or what she does or doesn't do towards other men. The problem is, you need to take control of this all and lead the situation into where you want it to.
    Have you ever asked her to just hang out alone? Actually, don't even ask, just tell her you two are going out for a drink or coffee or whatever. Spend some alone time with her without it being interrupted by waiting for friends.

    If she calls you a tease, tell her you aren't. WHenever a girl calls me a tease, I say I'm not but rather she is. I am the one who would go the extra mile, but she is too scared or nervous. This tends to work for me. I get so many girls to even send me pictures of themselves because I keep this sexual tension between them and me so intense. Literally over the weekend I got 4 different girls to send me nude pics, all because I make them feel like they need to prove themselves to me that they are more than a tease.

    I would just go ahead and get a date going. Spend alone time. You clearly have been doing natural things with her that she is enjoying and vibing with you. The only advice I could give is stop second guessing it all. Be confident that she is interested in you. Once that's set, you should be good. Oh, and start small, some girls don't want to pounce on sex first thing so if you are trying to escalate there, feel her out with a kiss first.

    Depending on the situation, I use this line I saw in a movie. It actually has never failed on me. Probably because I already know the girl wants to kiss me, so I do it to be unique and different... You tell a girl that you will bet her X amount of dollars you can kiss her without touching her lips. She agrees and is extremely curious. She looks at you with wonder on how you are going to trick this one... then, you tell her to hold the money, lean in slowly, then just kiss her. You then tell her, "best X dollars I ever lost"... or "rather lose X dollars to you than gambling it away".... They never keep the money btw.

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    Default Re: Need help with HB9+ on escalating 22y/o - Confused on signals

    Great advice, thanks!

    Actually I've already setup a time I could/would get her alone, watching a tv series we both watch at my place (she needs to catch up to latest episodes tho!)

    My only other question is whether I should try go for the kiss on the first chance i get to be alone with her, or whether I should try a bit more kino first during first few meetings (or even a bit more kino when we go out with firneds), build it up a bit more and then do it..?

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    Default Re: Need help with HB9+ on escalating 22y/o - Confused on signals

    Just a quick update..

    She was earlier over at my place with a friend of hers (!#@$ her friends, messing up everything), done some kino, as much as I could anyways.. she even brushes her freakin boobs against my arms! (unintetionally or not, i got no idea) but here's what put me off..

    we have a phrase as a joke that goes like "ohh come on your gay", which is something along the lines, "shut up" (playful) and my standard reply is "lets go to place xx and i'll show you who's gay" and she replied with "am like a sister to you".. her friend was always present if that makes any diff..

    no idea how I should interpret that..

    p.s brushing your boobs on a man?! that's just harsh!

    p.ss I've been talking (not actually gaming) to one of her besties, which seems she's into me as well which we could use to get the HB9.. (her friend I would say is an HB6)
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    Default Re: Need help with HB9+ on escalating 22y/o - Confused on signals

    She could just be saying the sister comment because her friend is there. My only concern is if she is is or isn't bringing her friends around all the time. If you ask to hang out and she brings them along, that is really weird.

    What I feel basically happened when she made the sister comment is that she felt cornered in front of her friend when you said the response about let's go to XX place and i'll show you who's gay... she might of felt like she needed to stand her ground in front of her friend so she just said that comment to you.

    I would continue talking with her friend. I have this girl who is extremely interested in me. I basically made it to the point it is going to be a friend with benefit thing, however, she is really weird when it comes to picking a damn date to hang out. Regardless of the reasons because I don't care about her enough to let it bother me, her friend always texts me back and forth. Her friend is this short fat thing but I continue the texting because we all know girls talk. So I know for a fact she is saying she talks to me via text. So the girl who is interested in me all of a sudden blows up my phone all the time wanting to hang out this weekend.

    I would keep it kind of innocent between the HB6 as to not really ruin your chances with the HB9 if you are really interested in her. You could "innocently" flirt with the HB6. No harm done.

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    Default Re: Need help with HB9+ on escalating 22y/o - Confused on signals

    For bringing her friends part, am not sure if she was feeling a bit too shy coming over my place knowing my sister would be over (although my sis actually left, coincidentaly), so am still trying to figure out whats going on there..

    Now for her BFF, I know for a fact they talk alot (as do all girls) and I know for a fact that the HB9 knows am talking to her friend (not gaming, just usual convo). What also sparked my interest, was that while she was over yesterday her friend sent us both a text about a uni issue she had and I could see that the HB9 was jealous. She even responded with a "why would she send YOU that msg?"

    So what am planning to do, is maybe become a tad more playful with her friend (as she's showing me ioi as well and could take it) and introduce some more jealousy in the situation, keep up the kino and make it more sexual (if possible) whenever we meet. I dont know how often I should plan on arranging meetings however, need your help on this. Then see how it goes.

    Also, I usually dont initiate conversation over txts with the HB9 (usually its 30-70), should I keep that up, or should I try initiate conversation more often? More generally how often should we 'talk' in order to have the right balance of not dropping in the friend-zone and keeping her interested..

    And one last thing, i've noticed quite a few times she mentions 'how hot that guy in the tube was' and stuff like that and also brings up my AFC friend quite often (I guess they talk alot, being his usual AFC seld and all). How would you interpret that?

    Thanks for the advice!

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    Default Re: Need help with HB9+ on escalating 22y/o - Confused on signals

    Okay guys, quick update. Seems thing to be going well, although I still haven't got her alone to kiss and seal (all i need is that, then i got it from there on)

    I was out at a coffee shop with a friend of mine (the AFC guy) and she joined us with a couple of friends of hers. Like pointed out, didn't pay much attention to her (maybe a bit of teasing here and there), more attetion to her cousin!! (which is giving ioi as well) and her ugly ones..

    As we were leaving she wanted to take a couple of pics together (which I rarely do, I hate photos but from a scale 1-10 she ranked it 100 that she wanted have a photo together) and so took the opportunity to do a bit more serious kino.. That went well..

    Then we were left behind from the grp and someone bumped into her and pointed out that someone patted her ass, and she took the liberty to show me how. So I grabbed the chance, said something about her patting my ass and pinched her's back..

    Overall I think was a good step forward, now onto getting her alone somewhere privately!

    If there is anything you would like to point out, please let me know!

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    Default Re: Need help with HB9+ on escalating 22y/o - Confused on signals

    Meh, dunno how to interpret this, but she always tries to find a friend go anywhere..

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    Default Re: Need help with HB9+ on escalating 22y/o - Confused on signals

    Hey... SOrry haven't been on a while. Lot to deal with in my crazy life lol.... I just read your updates. I think you are playing it a little too safe. I would be a little more aggressive. She clearly flirts with you and all, so just go for a chance and ask her to go on a date or something. Make it known it is you and her.

    She pinched your butt, and u did it back. Clearly she didn't mind or she would of said something. Try to escalate it. What's the worst that can happen? She rejects you? Oh well, move on.


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