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    Default Can never kiss close in a club!!!!

    I have an on-going problem that is starting to get annoying. On a night out, I am reasonably good/confident at approaching and holding a conversation with a girl, but I‘m absolutely awful at kiss closing. Put simply, my ratio of “girls spoken to” to “kiss closes” is terrible. An extreme example of this was the other night, where I must have spoken to and conversed with - during the course of the whole night - at least 8 different girls but come away with ZERO kiss closes. This includes talking to the classier kind of girls in a nice bar and the less classy (easier lol) girls in a late night club.

    When it really hit home the other night with how bad I was, was when I was in this late night club (not the nicest of places lol) at 4 in the morning. At this time everyone is pretty much wasted and the girl’s don’t have their bitch shields up. I was speaking to this girl (who said she had a bf) but she was very close to me, was allowing me to hold her while we were talking and was even letting me feel her ass. However, I just couldn’t think of anything to say or do to kiss close. I gave her a quick kiss on the lips when she gave me a compliment but that was it. Eventually the conversation died down and she went off with her friends.

    I feel embarrassed with myself that I didn’t kiss close this girl. To make matters worse, I saw this same girl making out with another guy later on in the night. This just shows she was clearly up for it and how shocking my performance was.

    I am aware of Mystery’s kiss close method (would you like to kiss me etc) but there are some occasions (like my last example) when talking to a girl where it just doesn’t seem appropriate or like it would work. Obviously I would follow a different approach when in a more sophisticated kind of bar/club and Mystery’s kiss close method does seem more applicable to those scenarios.

    What should I have done/said in order to kiss close (and hopefully more) that girl in the late night club?

    Additionally, any help/routines regarding kiss closing in a club/bar in general would also be greatly appreciated.

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    Default Re: Can never kiss close in a club!!!!

    Man. I think you just need to balls out and go for it. If that girl was letting you grab her ass she would have FOR SURE let you kiss her. You didn't need to do anything fancy with her obviously. You prob. could have been like " Kiss me bitch" and she would have been cool with it. Just kidding. But I would have used the Mystery kiss close in that scenario. She was obviously giving you way more than 3 IOI's.
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    Default Re: Can never kiss close in a club!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by In The Tropics View Post
    Man. I think you just need to balls out and go for it. If that girl was letting you grab her ass she would have FOR SURE let you kiss her. You didn't need to do anything fancy with her obviously. You prob. could have been like " Kiss me bitch" and she would have been cool with it. Just kidding. But I would have used the Mystery kiss close in that scenario. She was obviously giving you way more than 3 IOI's.
    Yeah you’re probably right, I just need to man up and go for it. Even if at first it doesn’t work at least then I can calibrate my approach for success in the future, rather than keep on doing what I’m doing now and failing.

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    Default Re: Can never kiss close in a club!!!!

    You have to just go for it. Like you said, you talked to at least 8 girls, so if you fail at kiss closing with one girl, move on and try it on another. Also, try isolating the girl and moving her to more intimate or private area where you'll have a better chance at making the move. Another tip is to try and kiss close on the dance floor. Dancing/ getting a girl to dance/ approaching a girl to dance can be an awkward or weird process for some guys, but you just have to be confident about it. And getting a girl one on one dancing makes for a pretty intimate and secluded encounter. if your dancing face to face, pull her in closer and the push her away a little. tease her and make her want to move into you. then just make the move.

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    Default Re: Can never kiss close in a club!!!!

    It's all about IOI's, and when you learn to pick them up you can't be stopped. Remember that just about all the girls in the club want to hook up as badly as you do, so I take even small IOI's as a green light for a kiss close nowadays. I generally do most kiss closes on the dance floor and a good test is if you're dancing with a girl and you give out your hand and she takes it you're pretty much golden. It's good that you're talking to a lot of girls as this gives you an excuse to dance with them if you come across them again later. Sometimes I do a stupid enthusiastic wave at a girl early in the night then approach her later and say "you agreed to dance with me before, let's go" or something, which normally works. If you're just sitting together it really comes down to balls moreso. A good line I used once (although it needs the right context) was when the friends of the girl I was sitting with started to talk about leaving I just said "I want to kiss you before you go", which worked fine.

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    Default Re: Can never kiss close in a club!!!!

    Just fucking go for it. Kiss closing at clubs/bars is EASY as fuck

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    Default Re: Can never kiss close in a club!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTan View Post
    It's all about IOI's, and when you learn to pick them up you can't be stopped. Remember that just about all the girls in the club want to hook up as badly as you do, so I take even small IOI's as a green light for a kiss close nowadays. I generally do most kiss closes on the dance floor and a good test is if you're dancing with a girl and you give out your hand and she takes it you're pretty much golden. It's good that you're talking to a lot of girls as this gives you an excuse to dance with them if you come across them again later. Sometimes I do a stupid enthusiastic wave at a girl early in the night then approach her later and say "you agreed to dance with me before, let's go" or something, which normally works. If you're just sitting together it really comes down to balls moreso. A good line I used once (although it needs the right context) was when the friends of the girl I was sitting with started to talk about leaving I just said "I want to kiss you before you go", which worked fine.
    I would like to think I am fairly knowledgeable when it comes to knowing what constitutes an IOI. The problem is I am either no good at noticing them when they occur (only in hindsight) or am not able to escalate the situation to receive enough IOI’s, or both. Apart from the example I provided, in general the conversation seems to die out into nothing well before I’ve received the 3 IOI’s (needed for mystery’s method).

    Obviously I need to become better at noticing IOI’s but then I don’t want a situation where I analyse every action thinking is that an IOI lol.

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    Default Re: Can never kiss close in a club!!!!

    its okay, you DONT only have to shoot for this, if you arent so good at it, then just bounce, alot of girls DO NOT want to get touchy at a public place, save it for later


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