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    Default Urgent help needed, major work girl probem

    Hi to all you PUA on here. First time post but read plenty, some incrediby useful stuff here.

    Now I have a huge problem, tried dealing with it on my own but hey theres strength in numbers so im really looking for some strong advice. Here goes>>>

    Theres a girl that I have worked with for the past few years, during this time we have become close. Helps that we have alot in common and usually like the same things. We were both in relationships until she broke up with her boyfriend then i split with my gf. So its ony in recent months we've both been single.

    This is how it goes: she has no problem with being around me, conversation never feels fake, its all natural. She tells me what shes doing most of the time, always laughs and jokes around me (although dont be too fooled cause shes a very jolly person) Also she doesnt have a problem with me touching her etc. I mean I often go and grab/hold her hand when i want her to do/come see something and she never has a probem. If were messing around i'll tickle her and she plays along. Her mom works at the same place, in a different department tho and ive got to know her too, i needed to thank her mum for something and she had no problem giving me her moms number.

    Now for the negative lol. This is where im confused as fook. I have caught this girl telling lies about stuff and me never being afraid to say whats on my mind have confronted her about them. Most of the time they were only little lies, nothing major but we fall out over them, then make up. Recently shes lied again and ofcourse i confront her and we go over the same pattern. Last time i laid into her about telling lies and honesty, she says its down to her ex that shes like this, always having to lie cause she feels she has to justify herself. She only seems to behave like this round me, strange!!!

    I kno we have alot of fun working together and have a hell of alot in common but im very concerned with these lies and stories she makes up. Id like to kno if u guys think she is being genuine with her insecurity or shes just being a bitch???. I have not tried to escalte anything as of yet cause of these concerns. I do kno this girl is very hard to get anything with a deep connection.

    So heres the million dolar question id really appreciate help with dudes>>>

    Does this girl like me and should i go for it???????

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    Default Re: Urgent help needed, major work girl probem

    I think it sounds like she may like you. What sort of IOI's has she shown you? It is good that she lets you touch her, and jokes around with you. Has she done anything else that might show interest toward more than a friendship?

    I would also be concerned about the lying. That doesn't sound like the type of girl that you want to get into a relationship with. Not only does she lie, she also sounds like she has baggage from her previous relationship.

    Ultimately the decision is yours as far as what you do, but I would be wary of dating a girl at work. If it doesn't work out, it can make for a very awkward situation.

    I would recommend not getting to invested in this one. It sounds like a recipe for disaster.
    Last edited by In The Tropics; 10-19-2011 at 01:15 PM. Reason: wording change
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    Default Re: Urgent help needed, major work girl probem

    Cheers for the reply bud,

    I have listed most of the IOI's above. There are a few more tho, shes let me go round her house a few times. (Although one time she wanted me to do something for her.) She will happily bring me food to share at lunch, although this maybe a two way thing cause I will bring something for her now and again. We text each other alot too, starts off most of the time about work but easily moves on no probem.

    Yeh it does sound a receipe for disaster lol, I mean im trying to suss this girl out with the lies. If the lies became more frequent this bitch would deffo be fucked off, thats 4 sure.

    Final verdict, am I liked???

    Also any advice on escalating it, take into consideration the whole akwardness work issue!!

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    Default Re: Urgent help needed, major work girl probem

    Hey man, i'm new at this but I have read a few books about it, and although I don't think I dominate it I do think I have an idea... I hope it helps...
    Personally I would take those IOI's as "she likes me", but it would not be the first time I would be wrong lol
    But how I've seen a lot of PUA's say; "if you want to have good odds, you have to try it with a lot of girlis" (or something like that lol)
    I personally would go with that text about the dirty dream from Race lol... I think it's so cool how it takes all the responsibility out from your hands and makes it a dream (you have no power over it!)
    Hope this helps! Good luck!

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    Default Re: Urgent help needed, major work girl probem

    Well. I would try to kiss her. That would be a sure bet. Ask her to hang out, and when the moment feels like it could be right (you have received 3 IOI's and have her isolated), try Mystery's Kiss Gambit. Let me know if you are unsure of what that is and I will expalin it in more detail for you.
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    Default Re: Urgent help needed, major work girl probem

    Whats the Dirty dream txt and mystery's kiss gambit??

    much appreiated.

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    Default Re: Urgent help needed, major work girl probem

    Race: I had the dirtiest dream about you last night…

    Note: You can add the OMG at the beginning and a (!) at the end to soften it if you are messaging a girl who you haven’t build too solid of a connection with. This shows you are surprised you had a dirty dream about her. You can also add BTW to make it more nonchalant like it’s no big deal.*

    Julie: Really?…do tell…

    Race: Well we were in the woods and it had been raining so we are both soaking wet when you fell in the mud and we began to mud wrestle…it was SO dirty!

    Julie: Haha you are a dork to the core. You might want to take a shower after that one

    One of the beauties of this technique is that by referencing a dream you now become free of responsibility. After all you can’t control your dreams. For that very reason it makes women even more curious! If you are in the so called “friend zone” with a girl you like this can be the spark that begins her thinking of you in a sexual way.

    Another fantastic feature of this technique is you lead her into thinking sexual then you release it by using the literal meaning of “dirty”. She isn’t expecting this and it makes her laugh. But now when you take her back into the sexual state she will be more relaxed and receptive allowing her to get more aroused and invest more in the interaction!

    Race: Did I mention how after I pinned you down mud wrestling I picked you up and pushed you against a tree and slowly began to slide my hand up your ribs under your clinging shirt?

    Julie: Well damn…so you feel like going hiking or camping any time soon?

    Race: I haven’t even told you how as I gently lifted your shirt over your head I stopped pinning your arms up and passionately kissed you using your shirt as an umbrella for us…I’m telling you this dream was DIRTY!

    Julie: How is it that you just perfectly mixed being aggressive with being amazingly passionate and adorable…that's definitely a dream that should come true…

    (later that night)

    Julie: So i’m about to go to sleep finally and i keep thinking about the dream you had lol. Hopefully my dreams are that good…it would definitely be a better night if you were actually here though i must say. G’night peter pan!


    Hope this helps! It's really cool lol

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    Default Re: Urgent help needed, major work girl probem

    The Mystery Kiss Gambit is at the end of this field report from my wing. He also talks about how he escalates and kiss closes personally so it gives you two different methods to try on and see if either one fits for you. Everyone's game is different and some things work for one PUA and not for another. Either way, this is a pretty solid field report, read it if you have time, there is a lot of good info in it.

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